2016 Jag XF Cheapened!
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If I'm understanding your question correctly, the jaguarusa site only has MY16 pricing and configurations. The numbers I posted came from the MY17 pricing sheet that my dealer shared with me.
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That's why I waited for the new InControl Pro system. I'm a bit concerned about some of the problems with the system's UK rollout, but my fingers are crossed. And finally, I compromised on the luxury side. Again, it's amazing to me to think that a Jag does not have the most beautiful interior, but my guess is that you know what I mean if you compare your XF to your old XK.
Take care, good chatting with you, I hope the InControl Pro system gives you satisfying functionality.
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hinckley (05-08-2016)
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Sadly the word "Jaguar" no longer conjures up luxury.
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Luxury Interior upgrade Pack
This Pack consists of:
SPECIFICS
- Configurable Interior Mood Lighting
- Premium Carpet Mats
- Electric sunblind for rear windshield
- Manual sunblinds for rear side windows
- Four-zone climate control
- Suedecloth Premium Headliner
Total $2,700
Here it seems the XJL is what is on the showroom floors and that is what made us look at the XF instead. The XJL is just too darned long for my tastes. Yes, with Land Rover and Jaguar being bed mates, many of the crossover features between the two seem to make one wonder just what they will do next.
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Exactly my point, you can get it as option on XE, XF, F-Pace, F-Type, but can not get on the flagship XJ?
Yes, I have it on my XF now, and my previous 2 also.
And what's with the designation '35t' for the v6 XE and XF. What does 35t stand for? nobody knows. Motor is not 3.5 liter, and not Turbocharged. Just dumb again
They come up with some dandies
Yes, I have it on my XF now, and my previous 2 also.
And what's with the designation '35t' for the v6 XE and XF. What does 35t stand for? nobody knows. Motor is not 3.5 liter, and not Turbocharged. Just dumb again
They come up with some dandies
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I've noticed that some in the UK have "Portfolio" trim on their new XFs. That is a trim level that is not offered in the States. I notice on the UK configurator that Portfolio models have "Windsor" rather than "Taurus" leather seats and they have a leather topper for the dash. I'm presuming that this Portfolio trim looks and feels much more upscale. Is that correct? I can't help but wonder why it isn't available in the States. We tend to be much more open to pay for such things since cars are so much less expensive here.
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I've noticed that some in the UK have "Portfolio" trim on their new XFs. That is a trim level that is not offered in the States. I notice on the UK configurator that Portfolio models have "Windsor" rather than "Taurus" leather seats and they have a leather topper for the dash. I'm presuming that this Portfolio trim looks and feels much more upscale. Is that correct? I can't help but wonder why it isn't available in the States. We tend to be much more open to pay for such things since cars are so much less expensive here.
The LED headlights we have as standard on the S is an option there. No gloss ebony veneer for the cabin, and strictly Taurus leather seating per the Jaguar site. I think the Portfolio is only on the XJ from what I find.
Here's the config I did for a reasonable comparison:
Build your XF - SUMMARY
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Remember that in Europe, prices include VAT, which I believe is 20% (!!!) in the UK.
btw, my fully loaded (including tech package) MY17 XF S has a sticker of over $82K . . .
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Configure one of the diesel models. I know the Portfolio trim is available on the 6 cylinder diesel and at least some of the 4 cylinder diesels. Maybe they think that the "petrol S" is a sports car that doesn't need luxury accoutrements?
Remember that in Europe, prices include VAT, which I believe is 20% (!!!) in the UK.
btw, my fully loaded (including tech package) MY17 XF S has a sticker of over $82K . . .
Remember that in Europe, prices include VAT, which I believe is 20% (!!!) in the UK.
btw, my fully loaded (including tech package) MY17 XF S has a sticker of over $82K . . .
Strange in that the turbo diesel 6 cylinder S package you only get single tone leather while on the petrol supercharged 6 you can get two tone. I am also amazed at the individual option costs versus the packages we get here. a BASE S in the UK is $75240 in USD while here the BASE S is $62700 USD. And we get so many more "options" as standard equipment.
As far as VAT, the cost of a £67,000 ($96,200 USD) vehicle includes £11167 ($16,036 USD) in VAT! Whew!
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I configured a 4 cylinder with the Portfolio and the only nice upgrade is the leather (had the Windsor leather in my LR HSE LUX where the leather comes with the LUX pack) but the 6 cylinder turbodiesel only comes up in the S edition and with Taurus leather only. Strange in that the turbo diesel 6 cylinder S package you only get single tone leather while on the petrol supercharged 6 you can get two tone.
Whew.
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Ok, I am looking at my order details. The interior details are as follows (hopefully I get the abbreviations correct):
Jet Fascia/Jet Sport Seat Light Oyster stitching
Jet headliner
Jet Carpet 'S'
PVC Door Casing
Sport Seat (driver)
Jet/Jet Facia
Taurus Grain PU console
Taurus Grain Leatherette Facia
Taurus/PVC armrest with Stitch
Jet carpet
Jet Seatbelts
Light Oyster Stitching
Console Stitching/Light Oyster
Door Casing Stitching - Non constrast
Facia stitching - Light Oyster
I think for the average consumer that doesn't go on the internet and search forums wouldn't pick up the difference from 2016 and 2017 or even from the 1st generation.
My husband already has told me sometimes I read too much. Ha Ha.
Jet Fascia/Jet Sport Seat Light Oyster stitching
Jet headliner
Jet Carpet 'S'
PVC Door Casing
Sport Seat (driver)
Jet/Jet Facia
Taurus Grain PU console
Taurus Grain Leatherette Facia
Taurus/PVC armrest with Stitch
Jet carpet
Jet Seatbelts
Light Oyster Stitching
Console Stitching/Light Oyster
Door Casing Stitching - Non constrast
Facia stitching - Light Oyster
I think for the average consumer that doesn't go on the internet and search forums wouldn't pick up the difference from 2016 and 2017 or even from the 1st generation.
My husband already has told me sometimes I read too much. Ha Ha.
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A reviewer of the new XE noted that, "a Jaguar without wood feels like mash without the bangers."
And more than a few reviewers of the F-Pace have noted the sub-par interior ("for a Jaguar").
Ironically, just as people have a negative perception of Jaguar's unreliability, at the same time they have a positive perception of its wood-and-leather interior. Both perceptions have proven untenable today.
And more than a few reviewers of the F-Pace have noted the sub-par interior ("for a Jaguar").
Ironically, just as people have a negative perception of Jaguar's unreliability, at the same time they have a positive perception of its wood-and-leather interior. Both perceptions have proven untenable today.
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Well, that would explain the difference!
I don't know, my buddy had a '13 BMW 535, it was a hell of a great car! If I was in the market for a 4 door I am not sure which way I would go. Perhaps the biggest kicker in my book would be the fact that you see the 5 series on every corner, at least the Jag has curb appeal from the lesser visibility. That is just me though, I am sure there are just as many folks who desire to be in the majority crowd.
Let 's face it, there are the Lexus and Acura comfy car folks and then the Euro performance sedan types. The beauty of the Jag is that it offered such beautiful appointment and refinement with nice performance. I suppose since they haven't lit the world on fire they are trying to make a charge at the performance folks.
I don't know, my buddy had a '13 BMW 535, it was a hell of a great car! If I was in the market for a 4 door I am not sure which way I would go. Perhaps the biggest kicker in my book would be the fact that you see the 5 series on every corner, at least the Jag has curb appeal from the lesser visibility. That is just me though, I am sure there are just as many folks who desire to be in the majority crowd.
Let 's face it, there are the Lexus and Acura comfy car folks and then the Euro performance sedan types. The beauty of the Jag is that it offered such beautiful appointment and refinement with nice performance. I suppose since they haven't lit the world on fire they are trying to make a charge at the performance folks.
Once Tata took over the JLR lines they made significant quality improvements and had the sense that once an improvement was made in one line, to see how it could be incorporated in all lines. Reliability has been excellent across the entire line. We have or had 3 new Land Rovers (2013 and newer) and the 2016 Jag and could not be happier.
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