Mystery Tire Wear
#61
#62
I think you said you're pretty sure it was a camber issue in your case, right? What year and model Jag do you own. Your problem was on the back end, not front, correct? I know Jags don't allow rear camber adjustments, only toe adjustments. Seems most feel the inside severe wear problem is a toe out problem which happens when the car is driven, and tests ok on a static regular alignment. Am I correct?
#63
RobertCC
Thanks for the reply and information regarding the rear tire wear problem. Delayed answer as I took car to local Jag dealer, and as others have written alignment checks did show nothing serious, a little toe out on back passenger rear. They aligned according to Jag specs. I now have 3 new tires (both on drivers side as they were 6 years old and showing some signs of early separation). Already had to replace right rear while on trip due to complete failure and severe inside wearing to metal core. Front right had been replaced by dealer as they damaged it several years ago during routine service.
Dealer said no evidence of bushing problem. Car is 6 years old, but only 27K miles. I imagine what you experienced it correct--and I told service guy that, as well as gave him print outs of what is on Jag forums site regarding this issue. New tires are again the same tires the car came with. Pirelli P7 Cituratos..
I will be keeping a close eye on back wear, and if it continues will ask them to do what you did. Right now Jag dealer doesn't think i need any bushing replacements, and I'm irritated by the apparent disregard of what happened to the rear tires. Asked them if contacting Jag to ask if they have any knowledge of this happening, and was told their are no service bulletins or recalls for this problem.
Unfortunately, I don't drive this car all the time--usually we only take it on trips, not around town. Only driving around 5k/year.
I'll see and thanks again for responding to my email to you!
Thanks for the reply and information regarding the rear tire wear problem. Delayed answer as I took car to local Jag dealer, and as others have written alignment checks did show nothing serious, a little toe out on back passenger rear. They aligned according to Jag specs. I now have 3 new tires (both on drivers side as they were 6 years old and showing some signs of early separation). Already had to replace right rear while on trip due to complete failure and severe inside wearing to metal core. Front right had been replaced by dealer as they damaged it several years ago during routine service.
Dealer said no evidence of bushing problem. Car is 6 years old, but only 27K miles. I imagine what you experienced it correct--and I told service guy that, as well as gave him print outs of what is on Jag forums site regarding this issue. New tires are again the same tires the car came with. Pirelli P7 Cituratos..
I will be keeping a close eye on back wear, and if it continues will ask them to do what you did. Right now Jag dealer doesn't think i need any bushing replacements, and I'm irritated by the apparent disregard of what happened to the rear tires. Asked them if contacting Jag to ask if they have any knowledge of this happening, and was told their are no service bulletins or recalls for this problem.
Unfortunately, I don't drive this car all the time--usually we only take it on trips, not around town. Only driving around 5k/year.
I'll see and thanks again for responding to my email to you!
#64
I'm also aware from the owner of a bodyshop that specialized in repairing import cars which were damaged in shipment that dealers don't report the damage. According to that guy, it's pretty common. When having a deer hit repaired I was surprised to learn from a bodyshop that my brand new F-Type S had had previous body repairs!
Slightly off topic but I experienced cupping and balance issues with OEM Pirelli P7 tires on our previous XE. The OEM Contis on our previous XF were only slightly better. I swapped them out for my favorite Conti DWS tires because my experience with P7s has indicated they aren't all that great in rain, snow or cornering. The Conti DWS tires seemed to resolve the issue for several thousand miles until the cars were later traded in.
Slightly off topic but I experienced cupping and balance issues with OEM Pirelli P7 tires on our previous XE. The OEM Contis on our previous XF were only slightly better. I swapped them out for my favorite Conti DWS tires because my experience with P7s has indicated they aren't all that great in rain, snow or cornering. The Conti DWS tires seemed to resolve the issue for several thousand miles until the cars were later traded in.
#66
Solution!
Experiencing same severe inner tread wear right passenger rear like in pictures on my 2018 XFS Sportbrake. Luckily lost air in a parking lot and not on the freeway. Couldn't believe my eyes when tire was removed--down to the metal on the very inner treads. Had to replace tire, but noticed similar, but not as bad wear on driver rear, but obviously is happening there also. Fronts look fine.
Are you still having no problems after doing the rear upper links?
Others have expressed belief that severe toe out due to bad bushings when accelerating causes this and not a camber problem. Any more information on this problem you can share?
Are you still having no problems after doing the rear upper links?
Others have expressed belief that severe toe out due to bad bushings when accelerating causes this and not a camber problem. Any more information on this problem you can share?
did give me a $1000 coupon for whatever, to offset the cost of tires I shredded due to a problem their dealerships did not catch!
I hope this helps!
#67
Thanks so much for responding. I had to buy 2 new tires for back, same problem, down to steel belts on passenger side of my 2018 Sportbrake, and less so on the drivers side. Took car to local Jag dealer in S California where I live. Alignment nearly in spec, but with few minor adjustments. I showed the service rep posts from this forum as well as pictures of my tire with I had to replace in Scottsdale AZ to get home.
Told the service guy who I have known for some time that other posts talked about upper control arm bushings as cause of problem.
I'm glad that you posted your email and to whom it went. Called service rep at local dealer, so far no call back.
I'm hoping for similar resolution. Could have been a disaster as I had just been on the Freeway in AZ. Felt the lumpy sensation like you describe.
I'll post whatever Jag USA responds. How did you find the email address to send your complaint??
Told the service guy who I have known for some time that other posts talked about upper control arm bushings as cause of problem.
I'm glad that you posted your email and to whom it went. Called service rep at local dealer, so far no call back.
I'm hoping for similar resolution. Could have been a disaster as I had just been on the Freeway in AZ. Felt the lumpy sensation like you describe.
I'll post whatever Jag USA responds. How did you find the email address to send your complaint??
#68
Thanks so much for responding. I had to buy 2 new tires for back, same problem, down to steel belts on passenger side of my 2018 Sportbrake, and less so on the drivers side. Took car to local Jag dealer in S California where I live. Alignment nearly in spec, but with few minor adjustments. I showed the service rep posts from this forum as well as pictures of my tire with I had to replace in Scottsdale AZ to get home.
Told the service guy who I have known for some time that other posts talked about upper control arm bushings as cause of problem.
I'm glad that you posted your email and to whom it went. Called service rep at local dealer, so far no call back.
I'm hoping for similar resolution. Could have been a disaster as I had just been on the Freeway in AZ. Felt the lumpy sensation like you describe.
I'll post whatever Jag USA responds. How did you find the email address to send your complaint??
Told the service guy who I have known for some time that other posts talked about upper control arm bushings as cause of problem.
I'm glad that you posted your email and to whom it went. Called service rep at local dealer, so far no call back.
I'm hoping for similar resolution. Could have been a disaster as I had just been on the Freeway in AZ. Felt the lumpy sensation like you describe.
I'll post whatever Jag USA responds. How did you find the email address to send your complaint??
Keep us all posted on what you find out! Quoting this thread helped me in my journey to figuring it out, and being able to enjoy my car for the last 5 years!
#69
#70
Thanks for the information. I have heard this before regarding the "toe in" alignment helping with the problem. Like I had earlier said, alignment was pretty close to factory specs, but I have sent an email to Land Rover Jaguar today regarding this problem, as so far I have spent around $1300 for alignment and replacement tires. Car is a Sportbrake 2018 with 27K miles and out of warranty. Got the idea from member mpastar above your post so I'll be posting here the results of my request for the rear upper control arm and strut. We'll see. Otherwise I will try the toe in adjustment, and if that doesn't work guess I'll have to replace the suspension parts on my dime.
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