2011 Jaguar XF best mods.
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Not sure how your car looks now, but some easy visual mods for "aggressive attitude" are window tint, blacked out chrome and grilles, and maybe a lip spoiler on the trunk. I also believe modestly lowering the car gives it a notably more aggressive stance. (Mina's are perfect.) The best (but most expensive) visual mod is new wheels, which can absolutely transform the look of a car from pedestrian to sinister. My two cents.
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Not sure how your car looks now, but some easy visual mods for "aggressive attitude" are window tint, blacked out chrome and grilles, and maybe a lip spoiler on the trunk. I also believe modestly lowering the car gives it a notably more aggressive stance. (Mina's are perfect.) The best (but most expensive) visual mod is new wheels, which can absolutely transform the look of a car from pedestrian to sinister. My two cents.
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Yes and No.
I have a link and pictures of the spacers (Excellent quality, made in Germany), but no pictures of my car. Since I am away from home and driving my XJL, no way to snap a picture. The spacers will simply move the wheels/tires OUT to an aggressive stance that is very much noticeable for the difference they make. Even my wife noticed it positively where she usually does not pick up on minor visual changes.
H&R Wheel Spacers For Jaguar Cabrio 2007-up 20mm (4035633)
I had used these on my '08 XK before I traded that car and they work fine on the XF, as well.
Albert
I have a link and pictures of the spacers (Excellent quality, made in Germany), but no pictures of my car. Since I am away from home and driving my XJL, no way to snap a picture. The spacers will simply move the wheels/tires OUT to an aggressive stance that is very much noticeable for the difference they make. Even my wife noticed it positively where she usually does not pick up on minor visual changes.
H&R Wheel Spacers For Jaguar Cabrio 2007-up 20mm (4035633)
I had used these on my '08 XK before I traded that car and they work fine on the XF, as well.
Albert
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Ajay Mann (01-13-2014)
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Also, some xj wheels will have the same effect as spacers, at least the ones I am using. I bought a pair of split 5 spoke xj wheels and they just transformed the look of the car.
Other mods I recommend include the mina rear diffuser and grill-too much chrome for me with the stock one. I am also a big fan of the mina exhaust tips. The exhaust, itself, is a little loud for my taste though but is an otherwise quality peice.
Other mods I recommend include the mina rear diffuser and grill-too much chrome for me with the stock one. I am also a big fan of the mina exhaust tips. The exhaust, itself, is a little loud for my taste though but is an otherwise quality peice.
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Ajay Mann (01-13-2014)
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The front XJL wheels and tires still needed a 15mm spacer, IMO, on the XF.
Albert
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You loose an other 0.5 inch tire sidewall with the 21s over the 20s. That means that potholes will have an even easier time to dent and bend the rims, as not enough tire sidewall height exist to protect them. IMO, you need a good min. 110mm sidewall to fairly safely avoid rim damage from road hazards. A 245/40 tire will have 98mm sidewall. A 245/35 will have 86mm sidewall. That would be the typical difference between a 20 and 21" wheel/tire combo, assuming that you wish to maintain stock factory tire diameters. 20" is already on the edge when it comes to rim damage protection. Lots of owners of 20" wheels report rim damage. 21 would make it considerably worse, with far higher chances for damages.
Also, 0.5" less tire sidewall = less tire flex, = harder ride.
Albert
Also, 0.5" less tire sidewall = less tire flex, = harder ride.
Albert
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FWIW I bent one of the stock 20" wheels on my XFR after hitting a pothole near the airport. Also broke a tie rod! Granted it was a bad pothole that was very difficult to see at night. Some good advice has been given about bumping up to 21"s.
I distinctly remember being at a tuner shop a few years ago and seeing a Range Rover on 24"s or 26"s or something sitting in the lot with a flat tire. The owner of the shop said the guy is back in there every other week getting his tire fixed. Doesn't seem like a fun trade off to have big wheels.
I distinctly remember being at a tuner shop a few years ago and seeing a Range Rover on 24"s or 26"s or something sitting in the lot with a flat tire. The owner of the shop said the guy is back in there every other week getting his tire fixed. Doesn't seem like a fun trade off to have big wheels.
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These springs claim 1.2" lower stance, which is, IMO, the correct amount of lowering for the XF. Our XF is my wife's car so, she has no use for lowering. Generally people who use Mina springs report significant improvements in the handling of the car. Lowering the center of gravity generally produces improved feel. Too much lowering, such as 2" or more, can be detrimental, however. I would still call Mina and ask them exactly how much stiffer these springs are when compared to the stock ones. Generally going 20 percent stiffer is a good value to go for. Anything more than 30 percent stiffer could lead to very harsh ride.
Be sure to have your car re-aligned after the lowering.
Albert
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Ajay Mann (01-16-2014)
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Good choice with the wheel size.
You can also go for H&R as it seems they make springs for the XF as well. 2010 Jaguar XF w/ H&R Springs, ADV1 Wheels, QuickSilver Exhausts and Michelin Tires - 6speedonline.com Forums
You can also go for H&R as it seems they make springs for the XF as well. 2010 Jaguar XF w/ H&R Springs, ADV1 Wheels, QuickSilver Exhausts and Michelin Tires - 6speedonline.com Forums
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Ajay Mann (01-16-2014)
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Jaguar XF lowering springs Mina for Jaguar XK8 XKR
These springs claim 1.2" lower stance, which is, IMO, the correct amount of lowering for the XF. Our XF is my wife's car so, she has no use for lowering. Generally people who use Mina springs report significant improvements in the handling of the car. Lowering the center of gravity generally produces improved feel. Too much lowering, such as 2" or more, can be detrimental, however. I would still call Mina and ask them exactly how much stiffer these springs are when compared to the stock ones. Generally going 20 percent stiffer is a good value to go for. Anything more than 30 percent stiffer could lead to very harsh ride.
Be sure to have your car re-aligned after the lowering.
Albert
These springs claim 1.2" lower stance, which is, IMO, the correct amount of lowering for the XF. Our XF is my wife's car so, she has no use for lowering. Generally people who use Mina springs report significant improvements in the handling of the car. Lowering the center of gravity generally produces improved feel. Too much lowering, such as 2" or more, can be detrimental, however. I would still call Mina and ask them exactly how much stiffer these springs are when compared to the stock ones. Generally going 20 percent stiffer is a good value to go for. Anything more than 30 percent stiffer could lead to very harsh ride.
Be sure to have your car re-aligned after the lowering.
Albert
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Ajay Mann (01-16-2014)
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I went with Mina because the spring rates match the stock spring rates. You don't want to run stiffer springs on the stock dampers and, unfortunately, there are virtually no aftermarket options for stiffer dampers. (If there were, I would have gone with H&R springs for tighter handling.) Remember, stiff springs on soft dampers equals a bouncy and potentially dangerous ride.
Handling improvement?
Ride quality?
Did you actually measure the total difference in ride height?
Did you have an alignment done after the lowering? If so, what camber values were left on the rear wheels (non adjustable camber)?
Generally, lowering springs are higher rate (stiffer) to prevent bottoming at the reduced damper travel. I agree with Mina and you by not wanting to increase the spring rates, as IMO, the springs are stiff enough already. If you want tighter handling you have to convince an aftermarket manufacturer to make a much larger rear sway bar to replace that ridiculously small 0.55" rear sway bar. For the life of me, I can not figure out why Mina and others will not offer one.
Albert
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Could you give a short review for your experience with the new springs?
Handling improvement?
Ride quality?
Did you actually measure the total difference in ride height?
Did you have an alignment done after the lowering? If so, what camber values were left on the rear wheels (non adjustable camber)?
Generally, lowering springs are higher rate (stiffer) to prevent bottoming at the reduced damper travel. I agree with Mina and you by not wanting to increase the spring rates, as IMO, the springs are stiff enough already. If you want tighter handling you have to convince an aftermarket manufacturer to make a much larger rear sway bar to replace that ridiculously small 0.55" rear sway bar. For the life of me, I can not figure out why Mina and others will not offer one.
Albert
Handling improvement?
Ride quality?
Did you actually measure the total difference in ride height?
Did you have an alignment done after the lowering? If so, what camber values were left on the rear wheels (non adjustable camber)?
Generally, lowering springs are higher rate (stiffer) to prevent bottoming at the reduced damper travel. I agree with Mina and you by not wanting to increase the spring rates, as IMO, the springs are stiff enough already. If you want tighter handling you have to convince an aftermarket manufacturer to make a much larger rear sway bar to replace that ridiculously small 0.55" rear sway bar. For the life of me, I can not figure out why Mina and others will not offer one.
Albert
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axr6 (01-18-2014)
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Sure thing. The car rides extremely well on the Mina's. Not night and day from stock, but noticeably more "planted". I had it aligned after letting the springs settle for a week. (I'll try to find the spec sheet but am traveling currently.) Cosmetically, the car looks fantastic. Not at all slammed looking, but a more athletic stance for sure. FYI the springs were around $400 and it cost me another $250 for installation. I'll post some pix once I get my new wheels on.
I would very much like to see the alignment specs, if you could, please.
Thanks,
Albert