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Old 10-29-2018 | 06:37 AM
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Considering two different 2011 XF's for sale locally. Both are under 50k miles and in great condition.

KBB value on this car is only $11 - 15k.
Seems like an incredible value to me.

Why do these cars have such low resale value?

Are there maintenance or reliability issues, or is it just reputation from the older days?

Its for my wife. She currently drives a 2007 S Type. We've been driving that for 4 years with virtually no issues.

These two XF's I'm looking at appear to be magnificent cars. Am I missing something?

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Old 10-29-2018 | 09:31 AM
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Welcome to the world of Jaguar ownership, it's a great place to buy one but a very poor place to sell one.
Great cars cheap, just don't think you can sell one.
Find a local garage for service, buy it, drive it, love it, donate it for tax purposes after you're done with it.
People unfamiliar with Jaguars will be amazed at you car and consider you to be wealthy!
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Old 10-31-2018 | 08:01 PM
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Honestly the pricing is just driven by supply and demand - no one buys 4 door sedans any more. It's all mini suvs and crossovers. And jags are a narrow market within the 4 door sedan mkt. so as mentioned above it's a great opportunity to buy
No shortage of them around so take your time, get a very thorough inspection by someone who knows what to look for. And only but with full service history and well maintained.
You won't be disappointed
 
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Old 10-31-2018 | 09:47 PM
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Visited local jag dealer for some service work. In conversation with a sales associate he indicated that SUV sales were 5 to 1 against sedans. Which then makes the used sedan market a buyers market, I made sure I purchased a Certified Preowned car for the additional warranty
 
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Old 10-31-2018 | 10:41 PM
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The main reason that luxury cars depreciate so rapidly is the loss of "luxury". The buyer of a used Accord is buying basic transportation and doesn't care so much about a scratch here or there or a worn seat bolster. With Jaguar, its different. Once the leather is even a little bit tatty, the doors are dinged and the hood is chipped, then its just used, basic transportation too and there's no premium that can be charged for the luxury anymore. If you can find one in such condition that 80% or more of the "luxury" is still there at seven years old and you can live with that, then it IS an incredible value at the price of a used Honda. Don't tell anyone - it's our secret.

But while you haven't had any issues with your S-type, I didn't have any issues with my XJ8 either, that is until it got to about 12 years old and 90K miles. Then things started falling apart, mostly plastic things that disintegrated in the Texas heat. The XF has a lot of plastic things in it too. I will be looking to update again in four or five years as its not a long-term ownership commitment. But hey, a premium v8 luxury sedan with only 27,000 miles on it for 60% off the cost of a brand new one, I figure was a whale of a deal. Just be sure to budget I'd say about $1,500 a year for maintenance and repairs, read this forum religiously and be proactive about the common issues. One thing an XF is going to need a water pump about every 30 to 50K miles and a bunch of plastic cooling system components replaced probably around 50 or 60K. As long as you go into it knowing that ahead of time, you won't feel like the car let you down when you start smelling a whiff of coolant, rather just think of them as another maintenance item like brake pads or wiper blades.
 
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Originally Posted by pdupler
The main reason that luxury cars depreciate so rapidly is the loss of "luxury". The buyer of a used Accord is buying basic transportation and doesn't care so much about a scratch here or there or a worn seat bolster. With Jaguar, its different. Once the leather is even a little bit tatty, the doors are dinged and the hood is chipped, then its just used, basic transportation too and there's no premium that can be charged for the luxury anymore. If you can find one in such condition that 80% or more of the "luxury" is still there at seven years old and you can live with that, then it IS an incredible value at the price of a used Honda. Don't tell anyone - it's our secret.

But while you haven't had any issues with your S-type, I didn't have any issues with my XJ8 either, that is until it got to about 12 years old and 90K miles. Then things started falling apart, mostly plastic things that disintegrated in the Texas heat. The XF has a lot of plastic things in it too. I will be looking to update again in four or five years as its not a long-term ownership commitment. But hey, a premium v8 luxury sedan with only 27,000 miles on it for 60% off the cost of a brand new one, I figure was a whale of a deal. Just be sure to budget I'd say about $1,500 a year for maintenance and repairs, read this forum religiously and be proactive about the common issues. One thing an XF is going to need a water pump about every 30 to 50K miles and a bunch of plastic cooling system components replaced probably around 50 or 60K. As long as you go into it knowing that ahead of time, you won't feel like the car let you down when you start smelling a whiff of coolant, rather just think of them as another maintenance item like brake pads or wiper blades.
Listen to this guy about the cooling system.
 
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Old 11-05-2018 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by lotusespritse
Listen to this guy about the cooling system.
Noted. Is a " wiff of coolant" the best signal to watch for?
This car has 46.5k miles, so I'm right in that zone - should I have it examined rather than wait for it to fail?

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Old 11-05-2018 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by skewzme
Noted. Is a " wiff of coolant" the best signal to watch for?
This car has 46.5k miles, so I'm right in that zone - should I have it examined rather than wait for it to fail?

Thanks
Plastic often lets go in a big way as opposed to metal that can spring small leaks to warn you. Much of the plastic is molded in halves that are then fused together, so they can just burst open at the seams and ruin your engine.
 
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Originally Posted by pab
Welcome to the world of Jaguar ownership, it's a great place to buy one but a very poor place to sell one.
Great cars cheap, just don't think you can sell one.
Find a local garage for service, buy it, drive it, love it, donate it for tax purposes after you're done with it.
People unfamiliar with Jaguars will be amazed at you car and consider you to be wealthy!
If only they knew...
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I’ve had my 2011 jaguar xf premium for about 5 months and I’ve already put too much money into it. Don’t get me wrong, I love the car, but not the maintenance. Every day it fella like something else goes wrong. It has to many miles, enough that I don’t want to say it on here, I regret the decision of buying it every day but it’s my first car and my parents kinda coerced me into buying it because it was only $8500. At the same time, it’s not like anyone else near me is driving a car like that, but like you said, if only they knew…
 
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Old 10-25-2024 | 09:03 AM
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I have said this before but I swear that EVERY time I open the hood I smell coolant? I don't have any leaks and the coolant level is constant. But maybe I am just on edge about coolant leaks? I think it's just the nature of the beast.

Only way to own one is used and DIY the repairs. I have had two Jags now and both have been great BUT again I try to do ALL my own work if possible.
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Old 10-25-2024 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mess52494
I’ve had my 2011 jaguar xf premium for about 5 months and I’ve already put too much money into it. Don’t get me wrong, I love the car, but not the maintenance. Every day it fella like something else goes wrong. It has to many miles, enough that I don’t want to say it on here, I regret the decision of buying it every day but it’s my first car and my parents kinda coerced me into buying it because it was only $8500. At the same time, it’s not like anyone else near me is driving a car like that, but like you said, if only they knew…
I owned 2 of the 2011 XF's Premiums. As an old car guy, I can tell you they would definitely be tough first cars when they are this old with this many miles and you aren't experienced enough with enough tools in the garage to DIY. And as a first car, you can't even appreciate how awesome the XF is as a car because you haven't owned other cars that cost a lot less to maintain, but suck compared to the luxury and driving dynamics of a Jaguar. That's why most young people lust after Mustangs and Camaros. When I was young, I used to think food at Chili's was amazing, and by my 40's, I'd rather go hungry than eat that crap. It's the same with cars.
 
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Old 10-25-2024 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
I have said this before but I swear that EVERY time I open the hood I smell coolant? I don't have any leaks and the coolant level is constant. But maybe I am just on edge about coolant leaks? I think it's just the nature of the beast.

Only way to own one is used and DIY the repairs. I have had two Jags now and both have been great BUT again I try to do ALL my own work if possible.
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I would say to check the maintenance history of your car and see the last time certain things were replaced. I’m by far no expert so I would keep looking around these forums and subreddits. But like I said, double check the last time things where replaced, something may be starting to go bad
 
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Old 10-25-2024 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lotusespritse
I owned 2 of the 2011 XF's Premiums. As an old car guy, I can tell you they would definitely be tough first cars when they are this old with this many miles and you aren't experienced enough with enough tools in the garage to DIY. And as a first car, you can't even appreciate how awesome the XF is as a car because you haven't owned other cars that cost a lot less to maintain, but suck compared to the luxury and driving dynamics of a Jaguar. That's why most young people lust after Mustangs and Camaros. When I was young, I used to think food at Chili's was amazing, and by my 40's, I'd rather go hungry than eat that crap. It's the same with cars.
I love the car and most the stuff about it, but your point about the mustangs and Camaros are true but I don’t have the money for a mustang and the insurance for that. That’s why I went with a euro v8 but still a good bit for insurance. I want to get a more reliable and cheaper to maintain car but at the same time I have to get some money out of my car now to make up. But no body would buy my car for any more than 6000 so idk what to do. Though it out until I can’t anymore, sell the car for like $5000-$6000, or donate it for a tax right off
 
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Old 10-26-2024 | 10:18 AM
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Had the car7+ years and have driven it from 20K miles to 61K miles. I have done all the maintenance and the coolant has been changed as the car is now 10+ years old. Both of my Jaguars have had the coolant smell. Between the two I have put about 150K miles on them. I think it's just part of the car?

Again it's a losing battle if you can't DIY the repairs.
As you found out Jaguar's are cheap to buy but expensive to maintain. That's where this list comes in with all the thousands of posts helping us out.
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