Battery died again -- any ideas?
#21
I've been under the impression that the car locks automatically after a few seconds when you walk away. I've seen the lights blink on the car when I've walked away (without using the fob or pressing the buttons on the door) and I assumed the doors were auto-locking. With that being said, I don't start my car for as much as 2 weeks at time, while leaving my ipod connected, and it has always started up.
#22
I've been under the impression that the car locks automatically after a few seconds when you walk away. I've seen the lights blink on the car when I've walked away (without using the fob or pressing the buttons on the door) and I assumed the doors were auto-locking. With that being said, I don't start my car for as much as 2 weeks at time, while leaving my ipod connected, and it has always started up.
Two weeks or more of sitting idle without a dead battery is what I would expect.
#23
It's kind of been said already, but I think the issue here may not be the car itself as much as the keyless entry looking and possibly finding your key fob within range and keeping the car in a ready state. To avoid this you can either:
1. Keep the key fob well out of range of your car
2. Lock the car so that even if you are in range, it only activates the ability to unlock the car instead of the different aux. functions.
A good test to see if your fob is in range is to lock your car, put your keys away, and then try to unlock by pulling the driver's handle.
1. Keep the key fob well out of range of your car
2. Lock the car so that even if you are in range, it only activates the ability to unlock the car instead of the different aux. functions.
A good test to see if your fob is in range is to lock your car, put your keys away, and then try to unlock by pulling the driver's handle.
#24
It's kind of been said already, but I think the issue here may not be the car itself as much as the keyless entry looking and possibly finding your key fob within range and keeping the car in a ready state. To avoid this you can either:
1. Keep the key fob well out of range of your car
2. Lock the car so that even if you are in range, it only activates the ability to unlock the car instead of the different aux. functions.
A good test to see if your fob is in range is to lock your car, put your keys away, and then try to unlock by pulling the driver's handle.
1. Keep the key fob well out of range of your car
2. Lock the car so that even if you are in range, it only activates the ability to unlock the car instead of the different aux. functions.
A good test to see if your fob is in range is to lock your car, put your keys away, and then try to unlock by pulling the driver's handle.
As to #1, the range is 39 inches from the nearest door handle and I keep the keys about 60 feet away.
As to #2, I asked the service advisor about this and he said locking or unlocking doesn't impact any functions. What's your source for this information about the aux functions with doors unlocked? Does it say this in the owners' manual?
Last edited by Long Islander; 11-14-2012 at 07:35 PM.
#25
I've been under the impression that the car locks automatically after a few seconds when you walk away. I've seen the lights blink on the car when I've walked away (without using the fob or pressing the buttons on the door) and I assumed the doors were auto-locking. With that being said, I don't start my car for as much as 2 weeks at time, while leaving my ipod connected, and it has always started up.
#26
The first XF I test drove this summer (09) had a dead battery sitting on the showroom floor. The dealer told me that it happens if the car is not locked and the keys are close enough to unlock/lock the doors if a button is pushed. That is a good distance because I can unlock my 10 XF from at least 100 feet away.
I also have an IPod nano always plugged in and powered on. I have not had a dead battery issue myself but as I said earlier, I always lock my car.
That said, I daily drive my car so it never sits more than a day or two without driving.
The simple fact is that locking the car is simple and does not take anything special to do every time you get out. If it keeps me from having to jump my car, I will do it everytime.
And as far as breaking and entering and thinking that if you leave your doors unlocked they won't break anything. That's crazy. That is also why you have insurance. If you can prove b&e, then claims are a snap. And some insurance companies won't pay if you do not at least attempt to secure your belongings.
I also have an IPod nano always plugged in and powered on. I have not had a dead battery issue myself but as I said earlier, I always lock my car.
That said, I daily drive my car so it never sits more than a day or two without driving.
The simple fact is that locking the car is simple and does not take anything special to do every time you get out. If it keeps me from having to jump my car, I will do it everytime.
And as far as breaking and entering and thinking that if you leave your doors unlocked they won't break anything. That's crazy. That is also why you have insurance. If you can prove b&e, then claims are a snap. And some insurance companies won't pay if you do not at least attempt to secure your belongings.
#27
And yes, as already mentioned, the auto locking is called Passive locking and is under the vehicle settings under security. I do not use it because when I fill the car up at a station and walk inside to get a soda, my wife/kids always set the alarm off opening the door while I am away (key fob is in my pocket).
The last time this happened I was doing that exact same thing around midnight and my wife set the alarm off. Scared her and woke a baby up in the car next to us.
Made me feel like crap.
The last time this happened I was doing that exact same thing around midnight and my wife set the alarm off. Scared her and woke a baby up in the car next to us.
Made me feel like crap.
#28
Crooks that can bother to break into a garage will probably bither to break into the car too. At least that is what a couple of my neighbours csn testufy to.
#29
Thanks.
As to #1, the range is 39 inches from the nearest door handle and I keep the keys about 60 feet away.
As to #2, I asked the service advisor about this and he said locking or unlocking doesn't impact any functions. What's your source for this information about the aux functions with doors unlocked? Does it say this in the owners' manual?
As to #1, the range is 39 inches from the nearest door handle and I keep the keys about 60 feet away.
As to #2, I asked the service advisor about this and he said locking or unlocking doesn't impact any functions. What's your source for this information about the aux functions with doors unlocked? Does it say this in the owners' manual?
I havent sat in the car to see how long they stay on for but it is several minutes at least.
#30
I'll double-check the manual as well, but I seem to remember something similar to this.
The way I see it, it's kind of like when you put your cell phone/tablet/laptop into "Standby" mode, and it uses a low amount of power as a trade-off for a faster startup. Locking it up pretty much "turns it off". Never say never though, your battery might be going out.
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#32
But, my wife's driving pattern is near identical on her Mercedes and has never needed a jump start, although the Mercedes dealer was nice enough to replace the battery under warranty a week before the warranty was up (they said the battery died from the door being open when they worked on the sunroof shade). A sharp contrast to the lame service I'm getting from my Jaguar dealer and Jaguar-Land Rover.
Last edited by Long Islander; 11-18-2012 at 06:57 PM.
#33
Earlier this week after turning off my car in the garage and not locking it I noticed the jaguar screen saver was still on about ten minutes later. I started the car once again, then shut it down, problem solved.
Just got home from a work trip and my car was dead at the airport. Maybe I need this software update. What should I be asking for specifically?
Just got home from a work trip and my car was dead at the airport. Maybe I need this software update. What should I be asking for specifically?
#35
And as far as breaking and entering and thinking that if you leave your doors unlocked they won't break anything. That's crazy. That is also why you have insurance. If you can prove b&e, then claims are a snap. And some insurance companies won't pay if you do not at least attempt to secure your belongings.
While the claim is a snap, you've also got to deal with a car that's out of commission and in most cases pay your deductible. I'm going through a claim right now from a break in where someone threw a concrete block through the rear driver's side window and crawled in. $12000 worth of damage, to include some that won't be repaired (1/4" scratch on my door that won't buff out, but it's not worth the appearance issues to have the door repainted to fix that...). And it is about a 2 month wait for parts, as Jaguar doesn't have spare XFR seat coverings sitting around. Fortunately I have a great insurance company and they waived my $1000 deductible...
Bottom line having the glass broken is going to be bad mojo even with good insurance. I agree that the car should not be locked in the garage but should be in public spaces.
Cheers,
- Will
#36
Earlier this week after turning off my car in the garage and not locking it I noticed the jaguar screen saver was still on about ten minutes later. I started the car once again, then shut it down, problem solved.
Just got home from a work trip and my car was dead at the airport. Maybe I need this software update. What should I be asking for specifically?
Just got home from a work trip and my car was dead at the airport. Maybe I need this software update. What should I be asking for specifically?
The screen saver will stay on for around 15 minutes if the doors are not locked. They told me this was normal. Mention this as well when you take the car in.
#37
Probably jinx myself by chiming in, but here goes... I've driven an XF (an '09, then a '12) for 4 1/2 years. It is parked in the garage, unlocked, with the fob on a hook about 15' away. It usually sits for several days, up to two weeks, between drives. When I drove it yesterday, it had been there 8 days. It has always fired up vigorously. The few times I saw the "low battery, start soon" display on the '09 were after I had used the NAV system for awhile with the engine off. (the '12 shuts off the electronics after 10 minutes without the engine running).
I never tried it in the '09, but the '12 electronics turn on without the key (for 10 minutes), days after the car is turned off. I frequently add info to the NAV before a trip, which could be a week after it was last driven.
Like I said, there goes the jinx.
I never tried it in the '09, but the '12 electronics turn on without the key (for 10 minutes), days after the car is turned off. I frequently add info to the NAV before a trip, which could be a week after it was last driven.
Like I said, there goes the jinx.
#38
Probably jinx myself by chiming in, but here goes... I've driven an XF (an '09, then a '12) for 4 1/2 years. It is parked in the garage, unlocked, with the fob on a hook about 15' away. It usually sits for several days, up to two weeks, between drives. When I drove it yesterday, it had been there 8 days. It has always fired up vigorously. The few times I saw the "low battery, start soon" display on the '09 were after I had used the NAV system for awhile with the engine off. (the '12 shuts off the electronics after 10 minutes without the engine running).
I never tried it in the '09, but the '12 electronics turn on without the key (for 10 minutes), days after the car is turned off. I frequently add info to the NAV before a trip, which could be a week after it was last driven.
Like I said, there goes the jinx.
I never tried it in the '09, but the '12 electronics turn on without the key (for 10 minutes), days after the car is turned off. I frequently add info to the NAV before a trip, which could be a week after it was last driven.
Like I said, there goes the jinx.
#39
#40
Not sure if this adds any input , but I leave my key fob in my car all summer and it sits for days at a time and never went dead. I mention this cause if the key is left inside the car it wont lock and the antennas keep seeing the key still on the inside. If this kept it from sleeping at all I would have had a dead battery at one point through out the summer.
Might I add that ther could be a few of us who may have a dead cell in the battery which will show a good charge when tested but under load it will fail sometimes to start the car? I have seen this plague many people before in the past with BMW and AMG/MB cars as well.
Might I add that ther could be a few of us who may have a dead cell in the battery which will show a good charge when tested but under load it will fail sometimes to start the car? I have seen this plague many people before in the past with BMW and AMG/MB cars as well.