Brakes and rotor upgrade
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I am looking at upgrading the brakes and rotors on my 2015 x250 (3.0l SC). Entirely for looks. I currently have the OEM 355mm fronts and the 326mm rears. I have 20" Kalimnos wheels (8.5" and 45mm offset). I am considering the PB brakes kits XF - Jaguar - Brake Kits (pbbrakes.com) or larger OEMs. The only real issue with the PB Brakes (assuming they fit) is the wear sensor can't be used, but I don't have an issue with that. I have read as many of the threads on the forum as possible and I am fairly certain it is possible to upgrade to the OEM 380mm fronts and the 376mm XFR rears. Does anybody know if there are any issues with things like the ABS system when doing this? Does anybody know if the SVR brakes from the F-Pace are suitable? I'd probably like to get suncut rotors if thats possible.
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Those are pretty cool brakes!
I would just be sure your rims will work OK with them? Since you have 20" you should be good.
Don't think you will have any ABS problems as those big brakes were available on other XF's anyway.
What's different about the SVR brakes? Do you mean the CCF brakes? I would stay away from those unless you really want to spend some money!
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I would just be sure your rims will work OK with them? Since you have 20" you should be good.
Don't think you will have any ABS problems as those big brakes were available on other XF's anyway.
What's different about the SVR brakes? Do you mean the CCF brakes? I would stay away from those unless you really want to spend some money!
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Those are pretty cool brakes!
I would just be sure your rims will work OK with them? Since you have 20" you should be good.
Don't think you will have any ABS problems as those big brakes were available on other XF's anyway.
What's different about the SVR brakes? Do you mean the CCF brakes? I would stay away from those unless you really want to spend some money!
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I would just be sure your rims will work OK with them? Since you have 20" you should be good.
Don't think you will have any ABS problems as those big brakes were available on other XF's anyway.
What's different about the SVR brakes? Do you mean the CCF brakes? I would stay away from those unless you really want to spend some money!
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SJP have you read this thread: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...brakes-229874/
Even though it's for a XJ, it is quite similar to the XFR.
Even though it's for a XJ, it is quite similar to the XFR.
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Yes the XFR brakes (380 mm front and 376 mm rear) will bolt right up to a 2015 XF 3.0 SC with no problems and no ABS issues.
You can get new slotted and/or drilled rotors fairly cheap from R1 Concepts or check Fleabay, I got replacements for my old XFR from Fleabay some six years ago, they were Hart brand and they are still going strong on the F-Type.
Your problem will be finding calipers and caliper brackets at a reasonable price, new ones are hellishly expensive, but if you keep checking Fleabay etc you can get lucky and find used ones in good nick for not too much money. Also note that the 380 fronts at least are exactly the same across the entire JLR range so you don't need to restrict yourself to just XFR ones, although they are usually the cheapest. If you can get used calipers for cheap then it would also be a good idea to recondition/renew the pistons and seals, you can get kits for not many $.
Last but not least you will also need new dust/splash shields as the bigger rotors will not fit inside the existing splash shields, I have found the best and cheapest place to get new splash shields is BritCar in the UK.
You can get new slotted and/or drilled rotors fairly cheap from R1 Concepts or check Fleabay, I got replacements for my old XFR from Fleabay some six years ago, they were Hart brand and they are still going strong on the F-Type.
Your problem will be finding calipers and caliper brackets at a reasonable price, new ones are hellishly expensive, but if you keep checking Fleabay etc you can get lucky and find used ones in good nick for not too much money. Also note that the 380 fronts at least are exactly the same across the entire JLR range so you don't need to restrict yourself to just XFR ones, although they are usually the cheapest. If you can get used calipers for cheap then it would also be a good idea to recondition/renew the pistons and seals, you can get kits for not many $.
Last but not least you will also need new dust/splash shields as the bigger rotors will not fit inside the existing splash shields, I have found the best and cheapest place to get new splash shields is BritCar in the UK.
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Yes the XFR brakes (380 mm front and 376 mm rear) will bolt right up to a 2015 XF 3.0 SC with no problems and no ABS issues.
You can get new slotted and/or drilled rotors fairly cheap from R1 Concepts or check Fleabay, I got replacements for my old XFR from Fleabay some six years ago, they were Hart brand and they are still going strong on the F-Type.
Your problem will be finding calipers and caliper brackets at a reasonable price, new ones are hellishly expensive, but if you keep checking Fleabay etc you can get lucky and find used ones in good nick for not too much money. Also note that the 380 fronts at least are exactly the same across the entire JLR range so you don't need to restrict yourself to just XFR ones, although they are usually the cheapest. If you can get used calipers for cheap then it would also be a good idea to recondition/renew the pistons and seals, you can get kits for not many $.
Last but not least you will also need new dust/splash shields as the bigger rotors will not fit inside the existing splash shields, I have found the best and cheapest place to get new splash shields is BritCar in the UK.
You can get new slotted and/or drilled rotors fairly cheap from R1 Concepts or check Fleabay, I got replacements for my old XFR from Fleabay some six years ago, they were Hart brand and they are still going strong on the F-Type.
Your problem will be finding calipers and caliper brackets at a reasonable price, new ones are hellishly expensive, but if you keep checking Fleabay etc you can get lucky and find used ones in good nick for not too much money. Also note that the 380 fronts at least are exactly the same across the entire JLR range so you don't need to restrict yourself to just XFR ones, although they are usually the cheapest. If you can get used calipers for cheap then it would also be a good idea to recondition/renew the pistons and seals, you can get kits for not many $.
Last but not least you will also need new dust/splash shields as the bigger rotors will not fit inside the existing splash shields, I have found the best and cheapest place to get new splash shields is BritCar in the UK.
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Thanks OzXFR. Reckon its better to go the OEMs rather than the PB ones? Part of the reason I want new brakes is I previously had my stock calipers painted red, I just had the rotors and pads changed and they are all now scratched. I also really dislike the tiny rear brakes currently on, so I am thinking I may as well change them rather than touch up/repaint the current ones. I assume OEM red paint would be much more robust. There is also not much one can do to customise an XF, pretty much just the wheels and brakes! I just put an XFR diffuser on the back and the Mina carbon fibre splitters on the front.
You can get XFR OEM or better rotors from Rock Auto for waaaay less, see here: https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...hub,rotor,1896
Of course that still leaves the expensive calipers and brackets and the splash shields, and labour if you can't/won't DIY.
If you DIY and you get lucky finding used calipers etc for reasonable money you should be able to do the whole thing for well under $2,000 AU, call it $2,500 if you pay for labour.
I have always DIY'ed new rotors, calipers and pads on the XFR and now the F-Type, it's a fairly straightforward job and I'm by no means a wiz with the spanners!
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If you've got the cash to spend, go for the PB Brakes kits, and don't look back. They're fantastic. They look killer, they stop better, and they weigh much less than OEM. But be sure to ask them for the template so you can be sure they'll fit behind your wheels. I have aftermarket wheels with a bigger offset, so they fit fine but I'm not convinced they would've fit with my old OEM Mataivas.
I've still got my OEM calipers sitting in the garage. I intended to repaint them and sell them, just been too lazy.
I've still got my OEM calipers sitting in the garage. I intended to repaint them and sell them, just been too lazy.
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If you've got the cash to spend, go for the PB Brakes kits, and don't look back. They're fantastic. They look killer, they stop better, and they weigh much less than OEM. But be sure to ask them for the template so you can be sure they'll fit behind your wheels. I have aftermarket wheels with a bigger offset, so they fit fine but I'm not convinced they would've fit with my old OEM Mataivas.
I've still got my OEM calipers sitting in the garage. I intended to repaint them and sell them, just been too lazy.
I've still got my OEM calipers sitting in the garage. I intended to repaint them and sell them, just been too lazy.
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