Can I engine swap a hellcat with my 2010 xfr
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Part number: 68303089AA List $20,020.00 USD Should be able to get it for $17,500 if you ask nicely enough. (I have some connections)
Short answer: Yes, just get a hellcrate.
Long answer: Yes, just get a hellcrate, swap out the PCM (It comes with one), and do some complicated wiring + custom engine/transmission mounts. The Key and security system may be the hardest part, but it should work fine if you GUT the Jaguar.
Short answer: Yes, just get a hellcrate.
Long answer: Yes, just get a hellcrate, swap out the PCM (It comes with one), and do some complicated wiring + custom engine/transmission mounts. The Key and security system may be the hardest part, but it should work fine if you GUT the Jaguar.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-6-2L-.../273271637586?
Last edited by harryf; 06-13-2018 at 04:18 PM.
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Yea, I wouldn't take that to the bank! Otherwise he'll probably be cursing you while he's chopping up the firewall and trans tunnel to get it to fit.
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I agree with what you're saying, but WTF is Meth injection?? isn't it only available in the other side of the tracks???
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If you plan to work on blower motors you should know about heat soak?
This is more of a problem for cars with mechanical super chargers compared to a turbo but they all have the same problem.
That is as we add boost we increase the inlet air temperature. Remember compressing air is work and the byproduct is heat.
This is why Jaguar added a liquid to air inter cooler in the intake track. To reduce air inlet temperatures.
When you get to higher and higher boost levels this heat soak gets worse. So if you can inject water, Methyl or Ethyl Alcohol into the intake charge. These will drop the intake air temperature a bunch preventing engine knock which will destroy a blown engine in seconds. The factory always runs a blower motor very rich at full throttle. This is also a form of cooling and engine protection. In fact a lot gains you get with tuning is leaning out the WOT a bit so you can make more power. But since Jaguar has to offer a warranty they will go for slightly less power but safer combustion.
Alcohol is better than water because instead of just the latent heat of evaporation which cools the intake charge you are actually adding fuel as well.
And of course air,fuel and spark is what we are looking for! We just need MORE of it!
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This is more of a problem for cars with mechanical super chargers compared to a turbo but they all have the same problem.
That is as we add boost we increase the inlet air temperature. Remember compressing air is work and the byproduct is heat.
This is why Jaguar added a liquid to air inter cooler in the intake track. To reduce air inlet temperatures.
When you get to higher and higher boost levels this heat soak gets worse. So if you can inject water, Methyl or Ethyl Alcohol into the intake charge. These will drop the intake air temperature a bunch preventing engine knock which will destroy a blown engine in seconds. The factory always runs a blower motor very rich at full throttle. This is also a form of cooling and engine protection. In fact a lot gains you get with tuning is leaning out the WOT a bit so you can make more power. But since Jaguar has to offer a warranty they will go for slightly less power but safer combustion.
Alcohol is better than water because instead of just the latent heat of evaporation which cools the intake charge you are actually adding fuel as well.
And of course air,fuel and spark is what we are looking for! We just need MORE of it!
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Last edited by clubairth1; 06-17-2018 at 01:03 PM.
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If you plan to work on blower motors you should know about heat soak?
This is more of a problem for cars with mechanical super chargers compared to a turbo but they all have the same problem.
That is as we add boost we increase the inlet air temperature. Remember compressing air is work and the byproduct is heat.
This is why Jaguar added a liquid to air inter cooler in the intake track. To reduce air inlet temperatures.
When you get to higher and higher boost levels this heat soak gets worse. So if you can inject water, Methyl or Ethyl Alcohol into the intake charge. These will drop the intake air temperature a bunch preventing engine knock which will destroy a blown engine in seconds. The factory always runs a blower motor very rich at full throttle. This is also a form of cooling and engine protection. In fact a lot gains you get with tuning is leaning out the WOT a bit so you can make more power. But since Jaguar has to offer a warranty they will go for slightly less power but safer combustion.
Alcohol is better than water because instead of just the latent heat of evaporation which cools the intake charge you are actually adding fuel as well.
And of course air,fuel and spark is what we are looking for! We just need MORE of it!
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.
This is more of a problem for cars with mechanical super chargers compared to a turbo but they all have the same problem.
That is as we add boost we increase the inlet air temperature. Remember compressing air is work and the byproduct is heat.
This is why Jaguar added a liquid to air inter cooler in the intake track. To reduce air inlet temperatures.
When you get to higher and higher boost levels this heat soak gets worse. So if you can inject water, Methyl or Ethyl Alcohol into the intake charge. These will drop the intake air temperature a bunch preventing engine knock which will destroy a blown engine in seconds. The factory always runs a blower motor very rich at full throttle. This is also a form of cooling and engine protection. In fact a lot gains you get with tuning is leaning out the WOT a bit so you can make more power. But since Jaguar has to offer a warranty they will go for slightly less power but safer combustion.
Alcohol is better than water because instead of just the latent heat of evaporation which cools the intake charge you are actually adding fuel as well.
And of course air,fuel and spark is what we are looking for! We just need MORE of it!
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It's just some kid that was probably handed down a XFR from dad and he blew up the engine trying to show off.
The username and pic of his car, along with his posts make me think I am right.
Daddy is not going to pay for an engine swap, so he probably won't come back.
The username and pic of his car, along with his posts make me think I am right.
Daddy is not going to pay for an engine swap, so he probably won't come back.
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these guys are talking about injecting a water/methanol or water/ethanol mix into the intake.
It takes advantage of thermodynamics. As the fluid is rendered into a gas in the combustion chamber it goes through a phase shift liquid --> gas that takes a lot of heat with it. Less heat = higher air density and thus more power.
Injecting nitrous is a little different because you are adding more oxygen to the reaction chemically, no through cooling. Although nitrous "can" be used to cool the intake charge as well.
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