Door rattle
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The dealer that did the work on seals is in Charlotte, NC at Scott Jaguar. I have had two different seals replaced on the car. They first replaced the inside door seals which did NOT work. They then replaced the upper door seals which have worked thus far. To be sure you can call my service department. They know all about 2012 XF seals. Here is the number (704) 527-7000. Good luck.
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Not surprising dealers are having difficulty identifying the correct seal. Here's the diagram from the Parts Manual:
Jaguar XF - Door Seals.pdf
Items 1 and 2 - described as Insulators
Items 3, 4 & 6 - described as Door Seals
Item 5 - described as Aperture Seal
Items 3 and 4 can reasonably be seen as the front and rear perimeter door seals but Item 6 is a secondary seal for the top and leading edge of the front door.
Graham
Jaguar XF - Door Seals.pdf
Items 1 and 2 - described as Insulators
Items 3, 4 & 6 - described as Door Seals
Item 5 - described as Aperture Seal
Items 3 and 4 can reasonably be seen as the front and rear perimeter door seals but Item 6 is a secondary seal for the top and leading edge of the front door.
Graham
Last edited by GGG; 07-24-2012 at 04:06 AM.
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Mine is having the same issue. Checked with the dealer and they told me the warranty may or may not cover it. If it is some parts that is loose then they said it will be covered but if it is something else then it won't be covered. I thought the warranty is 50k or 4 years bumper to bumper. Mine has around 46k miles. Service manager told me the warranty for that kinda problem is only 12 months. Is that correct? Confused.
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Having spoken with Brazz's dealer it would seem the offending seal is the part that runs along the very top of the inside of the door, located adjacent to the bright work strip on the top of the door, but on the inner edge. I applied washing up liquid to the area, and the noise has gone. My dealer was making contact with dealer technical support regarding replacing these parts.
However it may be that regular lubrication with a non silicone based product may be the only solution. Doubtlessly the warmer U.S weather is worsening the issue, which is still relatively unknown in the U.K.
It may be worth trying some lubrication in the area I mentioned, rather than rejecting the car which would be a very long process possibly without success.
Regards
Keith
However it may be that regular lubrication with a non silicone based product may be the only solution. Doubtlessly the warmer U.S weather is worsening the issue, which is still relatively unknown in the U.K.
It may be worth trying some lubrication in the area I mentioned, rather than rejecting the car which would be a very long process possibly without success.
Regards
Keith
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Well it looks like we were all WAY off. The problem is NOT with the door seals. It is a design flaw that only pops up when a silicone lubricant is used to clean the existing door seals. Think Armor All and any other product that makes leather, rubber, vinyl, etc. shiny. I took my car back to Park Place today because the noise kept getting worse. My salesman drove the car and was amazed how loud it was. He used "Technician's Choice Work Horse" cleaner (in a black can) and wiped down all of the door seals. Problem solved. Door rattles gone. No need to replace door seals or have the doors rehung. Don't let the car wash guys use any type of detail product around the door seals or the interior edges of the doors. If the doors begin to rattle or squeak, use a product like Work Horse.
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By the way, and completely off at a tangent . I had a very interesting conversation with Bryon the technician at Jaguaruptowns dealer in Dallas concerning the shocking killings at the cinema in the U.S. He explained it was perfectly normal to carry a gun in your car etc, also brought to light a few years ago by the Sandra Bullock character in the film Blindside. In Britain its all but illegal to be in possession of anything that could be construed as a weapon, and apart from a handful of specially trained officers the only thing the Police here carry is a stick. I know that is probably very contentious, and nothing to do with the forum, so apologies in advance, but perhaps less guns might be something worth thinking about. As I say apologies but just a thought.
Regards
Keith
Regards
Keith
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You can blame the British for that issue. The "right to bear arms" is the Second Amendment of the US Constitution and is a result of the Revolutionary War. In the state of Texas guns were necessary to fight the Mexican Army in the 1800's. Since we are no longer at risk of being invaded by a foreign country Americans have unfortunately turned their guns and their attention to each other.
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Well it looks like we were all WAY off. The problem is NOT with the door seals. It is a design flaw that only pops up when a silicone lubricant is used to clean the existing door seals. Think Armor All and any other product that makes leather, rubber, vinyl, etc. shiny. I took my car back to Park Place today because the noise kept getting worse. My salesman drove the car and was amazed how loud it was. He used "Technician's Choice Work Horse" cleaner (in a black can) and wiped down all of the door seals. Problem solved. Door rattles gone. No need to replace door seals or have the doors rehung. Don't let the car wash guys use any type of detail product around the door seals or the interior edges of the doors. If the doors begin to rattle or squeak, use a product like Work Horse.
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Thanks for trying. Both vendors are apparently for dealers/shops only. WAS wants me to input an existing customer number, even as I create a new online account. CRS took all my info for a new account and gave a message saying they'll contact me when my account is approved. I'll let you know what comes of that.
Really would prefer to find an equivalent retail product. http://www.technicianschoice.net/pro...ByID.asp?ID=34
Not much to go by.
Really would prefer to find an equivalent retail product. http://www.technicianschoice.net/pro...ByID.asp?ID=34
Not much to go by.
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Contact your Jaguar dealer and tell them that you need a can of it. They will either have it in stock and give it to you or they will order it. The Jaguar showroom and service department are 5 miles apart in Dallas but even the showroom had several cans of it. Probably any type of degreaser will work. What has happened is your door seals had a lubricant wiped on them during a detailing or car wash. You could probably even just try wiping them down thoroughly with a dry rag.