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Old 09-12-2016, 09:52 PM
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Planning to get a used XF. Mostly it will be 2012 or newer which should be under factory warranty or a CPO/certified car with 1 or 2 years left on warranty. This will be a car for my wife (She had Lexus GS350 before but currently drives a Prius due to long commute and HOV Access). Currently I drive a E350 but also has a lightly modded E36 M3 for my occasional track days and fun times

Looking at the engine levels available, my options would be XF 2.0T, XF 3.0, 5.0 L V8 ( May not be looking at XFR or XFR-S etc). Coming from a prius, I am sure any of these engines should be Ok for her thought I am sure V6 and V8 choice will be more fun. We are planning to keep the car for 5+ years ( ie we will keep the car even after certified extended warranty is over).

Which is the recommended ZF trim level for long term reliability?
Is there any year specific issues ai should look at closely?
Any other pointers for me?

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Any one? Looking at some previos discussions, I understand that V8 and V6 trim levels will be more fun but my question is on long term reliability
 
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Not sure about others, but I'm unaware of any difference in reliability from one engine to another. 'Long term' to me means at least 10 years, 5 years is still a new car
 
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Not sure about others, but I'm unaware of any difference in reliability from one engine to another. 'Long term' to me means at least 10 years, 5 years is still a new car
Thank you. Hope I will have better luck with Jag in terms in reliability.

I absolutely love my 1998 E36 M3 ( it has been reliable though its not a daily driver) but had terrible luck with a "new" bmw 535i
 
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My S-type is the most reliable car I've ever owned.
 
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You won't like the turbo 4, very under powered,
You'd be very satisfied with the 3.0,
You'd love love love the 5.0.

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I have the 2012 XF Portfolio, 50,300 miles. It just barely went out of warranty as far as mileage, and also out of warranty as far as the 4 years go.
I believe you'd need a 2013 or newer to still have some warranty left.
My car will be visiting the dealership for the 3rd time today, due to seemingly difficult to resolve coolant leak issues.


Outside of it leaking coolant it SEEMS like this car drives and runs well and is going to be a sturdy, reliable car...that's just the feeling I get if I could get this darn coolant leak thing resolved.


The 5.0 V8 is a really great motor, I love it. I laugh at the idea of the turbo4 in a 3,900+ lb vehicle (the base engine in 2013) so for you I'd recommend a 2013 or later forced induction v6.
With turbos and superchargers they should hold up as long as A) you are putting high octane fuel into your car and B) you let the turbos and/or supercharger warm up before romping on it, as well as let it cool down if you've been driving hard.


Having a British luxury sedan, and saying you are looking for reliability...is a bit of an oxymoron however. Any luxury Euro sedan just naturally shouldn't be associated with reliability. If that is one of your main concerns, have you considered Infiniti or Acura options?
 
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Ah I gather you're in the US. Pity you don't get the turbo diesels there.. or do you now?
 
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In February, I purchased a 2012 XF 5.0L V8 for my wife. I was lucky enough to find one with only 6K miles, and I have to say that I absolutely love it. Since I am more performance oriented, I don't think that I would be happy with either the 2.0L or V6. I would have liked an SC or XFR for me , but too much for the wife. This car is comfortable, powerful and fun to drive.
 
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Originally Posted by kwiksilver
In February, I purchased a 2012 XF 5.0L V8 for my wife. I was lucky enough to find one with only 6K miles, and I have to say that I absolutely love it. Since I am more performance oriented, I don't think that I would be happy with either the 2.0L or V6. I would have liked an SC or XFR for me , but too much for the wife. This car is comfortable, powerful and fun to drive.
Very few find happiness with the 2 liter four cylinder, but the supercharged 3 liter V-6 has performance essentially the same as the 5 liter naturally aspirated V-8 (the engine it replaced). That being said generally one would expect somewhat better long term reliability from a naturally aspirated engine.
 
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Thank you all. Coming from a Prius, I think she will be happy with any 4 cylinder but I guess it will be good to have some competition within the family for my E36 M3 .

I need to look at the possibility of getting an extended warranty
 
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Someone made a "smart" comment that these engines are used by many Ford models and fixing it shouldnt be a big deal

I am aware of 2.0 Turbos but is the V8's also shared across?
 
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Originally Posted by aparanschumi
Someone made a "smart" comment that these engines are used by many Ford models and fixing it shouldnt be a big deal

I am aware of 2.0 Turbos but is the V8's also shared across?
No.
 
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The V8 is in the Range Rover and Land Rover but not in ford cars
 
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Originally Posted by aparanschumi
Someone made a "smart" comment that these engines are used by many Ford models and fixing it shouldnt be a big deal

I am aware of 2.0 Turbos but is the V8's also shared across?
The Jag designed and manufactured 4.0 V8 was used in the short lived Lincoln LS and the even shorter lived Ford Thunderbird revival.

That's about it.
 
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Old 09-22-2016, 09:07 PM
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Test drove the 4 cylinder...3 second turbo lag is really noticeable when starting from stop or slow speed acceleration.

Test drove a 2013 V6 Supercharged. Much better. Good enough power and handling.

V8 is next
 
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Go with the V8! The sound alone is worth having it. And the fuel economy is surprisingly good, even when compared to the V6. I have the supercharged V8 and will regularly see around 28 on the highway and combined about 21 for city/highway. It's only rated to do 15/21 so I'm very pleased.
 
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the car is too heavy for the 4cyl. my wife had a 4cyl 328 and i thought THAT was slow, and its lighter!

the 6cyl is a good compromise, but wont sound as good as the V8. it wont move you as fast as the V8, but it will move you.

the V8 is intoxicating, but it really comes down to how you want to drive (sporty vs comfort)
 
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Originally Posted by carzaddict
the V8 is intoxicating, but it really comes down to how you want to drive (sporty vs comfort)
I disagree. I have the supercharged V8 with tune, pulley, etc and depending how I move my right foot, I have both sport and comfort. This car really does it all. I've driven the supercharged 6 and it is definitely adequate. Doesn't have the torque that the NA V8 does, which makes the V8 feel like a higher end vehicle.

Continue to drive them and see what flavor meets your emotional and financial needs. Buy any of them but the turbo 4.
 
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thats what I meant, the car is for his wife (according to his first post). not sure who his wife is or how she likes to drive, chances are his wife could care less about the V8, but he might enjoy it
 


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