2013 Jaguar XF and XJ get new powertrains, all-wheel drive

The latest and greatest. Forgive me if this is old news...research '10s and '11s...wanting to get my hands on a Kyanite blue XFR...why so rare?

 

Interesting article. One thing especially caught my eye:

"All 2013 Jaguar cars come with Jaguar Platinum coverage, which includes:
. Complimentary scheduled maintenance for 4 years/50,000 miles
. New vehicle limited warranty for 4 years/50,000 miles
. 24/7 roadside assistance for 4 years/50,000 miles"

Back by popular demand, I assume. Bet those of you who've just bought 2012s are gritting your teeth that you didn't wait for a year.

TBH, I think with these new changes, especially AWD which is almost NECESSARY here in the NE USA, I think I might trade up to a 2013 XF next summer if I am in a situation where having a car still seems to be a good idea. If not, then its a mute point. But Platinum coverage is a nice thing to have.

 

Very nice. Correct me if I'm wrong but new 2012's also come with free scheduled maintenance for 4 years.

 

Ok I checked and they do....4 year or 50k

 

Yes, 2011's do. They got rid of that with the "refresh" in 2012 (if you can call it that...)

 

A few impressions, in a nutshell:

I would have to step down to the 340hp 3.0L Supercharged V6 to get AWD ($53,000)...can’t stick with the 385hp 5.0L V8, which is going to be taken away from the base XF altogether in 2013 (and only offered in the Supercharged and XFR trim levels)...dropping it to 4 and 6 cylinder options only. I’m surprised...I thought the entry level price for the I4 would drop into the lower 4’s ($40-42k)...still $47k and up shocks me...

Here’s the XF Pricing for anyone wanting to see it:
XF 2.0: $46,975 2-liter turbocharged I4, 240hp
XF 3.0: $50,000 3-liter supercharged V6, 340hp
XF 3.0 AWD: $53,000 3-liter supercharged V6, 340hp
XF Supercharged: $68,100 5-liter supercharged V8, 470hp
XFR: $83,200 5-liter supercharged V8, 510hp


It’s not really AWD, it’s rear wheel drive but up to 50% of the torque can be transferred to the front wheels.

8 speed instead of 6 speed (on all models)

Wonder why Jaguar is switching from B&W to Meridian...which I believe McLaren uses, and I also believe is British. The article says its because it is equivalent but uses less power...wonder if there’s something financial related to the decision...it seems pointless to mess with perfection (that I think the B&W system was)...

Lane guidance for intersections on the navigation system will be a nice feature
As I mentioned already, platinum coverage is included...nice perk to have when you’re paying this much for a car.

 

" not really awd" meaning what? All torque transfer systems involve some proportional transfer. All limited slip systems involve some proportional transfer even if it is a true locker that goes from zero to 100%. (awful BTW)

AWD is never "necessary" on serviced roads. Heck, snow tires were a relatively recent innovation for some of us!

A skillfully driven vehicle on a serviced road needs no awd, no LSD, and no traction control. Regardless of weather or road conditions. If progress is not possible under existing conditions without some form of traction aid then driving should not be attempted.

Braking traction is the safety limit, not going forward traction.

Supercharging smaller engines is here to stay. The normally aspirated large displacement engine is on its way out as are manually shifted transmissions.

Stereo branding for cars is a clever marketing affectation. Both B&W and Jaguar got all they needed from their association and both no doubt have moved on. Audi is still sticking with Bang & Olufsen. Great names in past(and current) car stereos are Harmon Kardon (who?) and Bose. Tied marketing ought not to work but people are easily taken in.

Kyanite Blue may be rare but try finding Azure Blue. Apparently only two people in my city like that colour!

 

The 2012's sold in the U.S. include 4 year or 50k scheduled maintenance. Google it...straight from Jag' NA website.

 

Yeah, the B&W system in my XFR is so impressive that I got myself some lovely B&W headphones that cost more than such an item really should, but are equally impressive. I am not sure if I had owned the headphones first, I would have gone out and bought an XFR, but nevertheless, the association works.

I'm off to check out the Meridian website then...

 

Then my dealer lied to me...I was looking for a 2012 and they said that Jaguar dropped the 4/50 coverage on the 2012 that covers everything...hoping someone with a 2012 can clear this up.

 

With regards to Kyanite.... The Japanese sunami wiped out the biggest source of specialty paints for a number of car manufacturers. Kyanite may have been a victim (just a guess). Also, I suspect dealers did not order that color on XFR's in significant numbers. It is a great color.

 

Yeah, when I was Considering purchasing new, both dealers in my area told me they only order black or white cars, and occasionally silver. Shame, cause whenever you see a jaguar in the area, its either black or white or occasionally silver. I really was considering the Caviar color on the 2012 portfolio with the London tan interior...

 

http://www.jaguar.com/content/market...umCoverage.pdf

 

Jaguar's 2011 Platinum coverage went way beyond the 2012's:

Jaguar USA - JAGUAR PLATINUM COVERAGE

For the 2011s: "The new Jaguar Platinum Coverage features a five year/50,000 mile new vehicle warranty and complimentary scheduled maintenance for the duration of the warranty period, including no-cost replacement of select wear and tear components, and 24/7 roadside assistance. This no-cost coverage includes oil changes, filters, brake pads, brake discs, brake fluids and wiper blade inserts."

I've talked to my share of service guys about what kinds of problems they typically see, and the complaints/comments/euphemisms about the brakes being an issue are glaring (and sometimes funny). Not sure if the design was fixed/improved with the 2012s, but they made it pretty clear that Jaguar was fully aware that there was a premature wear brake problem with pre-2012s.

I don't think I've ever seen a standard manufacturer's warranty cover brake pads and brake discs replacement for 5 years(!)- probably would be tough to overvalue how much this is worth, if you're looking at 2011s.

 

OK so in summary -- both 2011's and 2012' have "platinum coverage". However, the 2011 version of this plan is one additional year and covers several items the 2012 version does not -- namely brake pads.

No doubt the 2011's version is better....but some of the discussions here may have led 2012 owners to think that scheduled maintenence was not free during the bumper to bumper warratee period...which it is.

 

Good summary and good point- the original question from arlingtonman was whether or not scheduled maintenance is covered, and it is, for both MY. 2012 coverage is competitive for this segment, while the 2011 coverage is unheard of as far as I know- wish Jaguar would still offer it, unless of course they've fixed the brake design.

It sounds like arlingtonman may have been misled or possibly misinformed by the dealer as to what exactly was discontinued in 2012. Unfortunately as we all know, dealers vary wildly in both knowledge/competency and trustworthiness.

 

Yeah, you got that right. I wanted to buy New. My dealer tried selling me their last 2011 by saying it had complimentary scheduled maintenance, and the 2012s didn't. Sounds like they just wanted to get the last 2011 off the lot, to me :-(. What's more ironic is that my salesman owns a 2012 XF... ;-)

I gave up looking for a 2011 because I couldn't find one I like so settled by buying new. Now, I wish I would have known that about the '12s and would have probably bought one.

Just saw a tempting deal on a 2011 XJ L (fully loaded) w/15k for $49,995. Cashmere over ivory...looks sweet. But I just bought, and am loving mine. But in the future, I would like to try the X351 XJ's

 

Correction---I settled by buying used. And I wouldn't really consider it that much of a settle...I love it every time I get inside.

 

Regarding 2011 vs 2012 vs 2013 coverage


From 2011 Brochure

ALL 2011 JAGUAR CARS COME WITH JAGUAR PLATINUM COVERAGE
FOR 5 YEARS/50,000 MILES WHICH INCLUDES:
» COMPLIMENTARY SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE
» NO-COST REPLACEMENT OF WEAR AND TEAR ITEMS
» 5/50 NEW VEHICLE LIMITED WARRANTY
» 24/7 ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE


From 2012 PDF listed above

ALL 2012 JAGUAR CARS COME WITH JAGUAR PLATINUM COVERAGE
FOR 4 YEARS/50,000 MILES WHICH INCLUDES:
» COMPLIMENTARY SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE
» 4/50 NEW VEHICLE LIMITED WARRANTY
» 24/7 ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE


From article
All 2013 Jaguar cars come with Jaguar Platinum coverage, which includes:
. Complimentary scheduled maintenance for 4 years/50,000 miles
. New vehicle limited warranty for 4 years/50,000 miles
. 24/7 roadside assistance for 4 years/50,000 miles

So in looking at 2011 vs 2012 specially, the terms (5 years vs 4 years) are obviously different. But the key difference between the two is the No-Cost replacement of wear and tear items no longer included as of 2012. I always took that to mean as long as it wasn’t something the driver did to the vehicle, it was repaired at no cost prior on 2011 plan. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that tires were excluded from this plan.

So it would seem based on the article that the 2013 coverage will be the same coverage as 2012 which for all practical purposes was reduced from 2011.

 

Bowers and Wilkens is well known for it's speakers in the audiophile community, this is before the affiliation with Jaguar.