Making a few XFR mods.....
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I have a 2010 XFR.
Well Ive decided I'm going to add a few hp's to an already fast and powerful car.
Making a pully change, cat back exhaust and having a dyno tune done. Ive been told I should see increases of upwards to 60 rwhp. We shall see.
Pully and tune will be done this sat (4-16) and exhaust a few weeks later.
I'll let the forum know the improvements.
Well Ive decided I'm going to add a few hp's to an already fast and powerful car.
Making a pully change, cat back exhaust and having a dyno tune done. Ive been told I should see increases of upwards to 60 rwhp. We shall see.
Pully and tune will be done this sat (4-16) and exhaust a few weeks later.
I'll let the forum know the improvements.
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555 Motorsports from Chicago area is the tuner and Komet Motorsports is doing the instal.
Just had a base dyno pull done today. All I can say is HOLY **** that motor is strong before and mods being done.
I have a feeling Jag is underrating the 510 hp rating.
They got 460 rwhp and 420 lbs of torque.
Even at 20% pwertrain loss the rwhp should be about 410. I mean thats a big heavy car. 20% loss would be rezable.
The tuner was amazed. All the guys were say how strong that motor is. The torque band jumped upat 2300 rpms and stayed flat all the way thru the rpm band.
Cant wait to get the mods done now.
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Thanks for sharing the dyno results.
Can you tell if the 460 HP measured was actual rear wheel power, or calculated engine power on the graph? Also what dyno type was it? This way I can interpret the values better.
The ECU is limiting the torque actually, which is probably why you saw a almost flat line. Just by taking that away you will gain conisderable amount of extra torque in mid range.
Forgot to add, where these figures SAE corrected or actual ones?
Can you tell if the 460 HP measured was actual rear wheel power, or calculated engine power on the graph? Also what dyno type was it? This way I can interpret the values better.
The ECU is limiting the torque actually, which is probably why you saw a almost flat line. Just by taking that away you will gain conisderable amount of extra torque in mid range.
Forgot to add, where these figures SAE corrected or actual ones?
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Thanks for sharing the dyno results.
Can you tell if the 460 HP measured was actual rear wheel power, or calculated engine power on the graph? Also what dyno type was it? This way I can interpret the values better.
The ECU is limiting the torque actually, which is probably why you saw a almost flat line. Just by taking that away you will gain conisderable amount of extra torque in mid range.
Forgot to add, where these figures SAE corrected or actual ones?
Can you tell if the 460 HP measured was actual rear wheel power, or calculated engine power on the graph? Also what dyno type was it? This way I can interpret the values better.
The ECU is limiting the torque actually, which is probably why you saw a almost flat line. Just by taking that away you will gain conisderable amount of extra torque in mid range.
Forgot to add, where these figures SAE corrected or actual ones?
I'm looking at the dyno sheet......
Its a Mustang Dyno, actual rwhp. Dont know about SAE corrected, I'll have to ask about that.
460.6 rwhp @ 6303 rpms
420.8 ft lbs @ 2656 rpms
Last edited by ToddsXFR; 04-18-2011 at 07:05 PM. Reason: added info
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Thanks. I just checked their website and FYI, the exhaust listed says it's only for XF and not XFR.
Jaguar XF Performance Exhaust
FWIW, Quicksilver has an exhaust that fits the XFR. It is significantly louder than the stock exhaust, however.
Jaguar XFR 5.0 Super Charged 'Sports' Exhaust - QuickSilver Exhaust Systems
Jaguar XF Performance Exhaust
5. This kit will fit the XF and XF Supercharged models. It will not fit the XFR.
Jaguar XFR 5.0 Super Charged 'Sports' Exhaust - QuickSilver Exhaust Systems
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They do have one for the XFR as well. You are right, its not listed on their website. Its a cat back exhaust. No where near as loud as the Quick silver I'm told. More like the Arden exhaust. Just a nice low deep rumble. It however is taking a bit longer than they originally told me to get the exhaust in. Not sure why, but will be finding out monday.
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They do have one for the XFR as well. You are right, its not listed on their website. Its a cat back exhaust. No where near as loud as the Quick silver I'm told. More like the Arden exhaust. Just a nice low deep rumble. It however is taking a bit longer than they originally told me to get the exhaust in. Not sure why, but will be finding out monday.
There isn't much out there about the Quicksilver so let me comment. I bought it on recommendation of the dealer sales guy but am having second thoughts. It is fairly loud at certain RPM, almost muscle car loud, and there is some droning below 2000 RPM when going up grades on the freeway. I can avoid it by going above 2000 RPM, but need to choose gears via paddle shifter to keep it there, as the programming of auto mode selects a higher gear probably for fuel economy and to take advantage of the huge amount of torque.
I had a Tubi exhaust on my e39 M5 and the Quicksilver is much different. On
the M5, the Tubi had an exotic, higher pitched wailing sound at higher RPM and was not overly loud. It almost never droned unless also under 2000 RPM, but with a manual transmission, I would never be in that range. I wish they made a Tubi for the XFR but they don't as far as I can tell (it's not listed on any Tubi website).
Most sound clips of exhausts quite naturally are taken outside the car with the car revved from idle. That doesn't tell you the full story. What is important is also to get an idea of what it sounds like under load, as that changes the sound quality. For that you can do a drive-by with a friend outside and also have a mic inside.
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I have a 2010 XFR.
Well Ive decided I'm going to add a few hp's to an already fast and powerful car.
Making a pully change, cat back exhaust and having a dyno tune done. Ive been told I should see increases of upwards to 60 rwhp. We shall see.
Pully and tune will be done this sat (4-16) and exhaust a few weeks later.
I'll let the forum know the improvements.
Well Ive decided I'm going to add a few hp's to an already fast and powerful car.
Making a pully change, cat back exhaust and having a dyno tune done. Ive been told I should see increases of upwards to 60 rwhp. We shall see.
Pully and tune will be done this sat (4-16) and exhaust a few weeks later.
I'll let the forum know the improvements.
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I know the Quicksilver tips look stock, so no worries there. I think the Arden ones also look stock from the pics I've seen. The problem is there are so few cars with any aftermarket exhausts, and it's hard to really tell how loud they are from the sound clips on the web. Ideally you need to hear them in person. And there aren't even that many sound clips as far as I've been able to find!