Oil Analysis : E-Diff, ZF8, TVS, and AJ133s
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For anyone who is curious - I sent 4 oils to Blackstone after my summer overhaul project on my '15 XFR-s with 45k miles on it.
Engine Oil - OEM Castrol 0W-20 (4k/year)
S/C Oil - OEM Eaton/Jaguar Oil (45k/7years)
Trans Oil - ZF LG8 (45k/7years)
DIff Oil - E-Diff, OEM Castrol (45k/7years) **This is the only one that had a worrisome report**
The car had one previous owner with dealer service records, so as far as I could tell, it had only received "regular" oil changes per the service guide. If anything, they were done on the time basis, not mileage, as this car was a bit under driven. For anyone who has not used this service, its really cool and takes about 1-2 weeks depending on their workflow. Its $30 per sample. After a lot of service, a dyno, and some seat time I wanted to see if there were any problems with the car before I start modifying it. For what its worth... the e-diff functions fine, I will likely follow their instruction and change the fluid again in 5k mi or so.
Reports are attached!
Engine Oil - OEM Castrol 0W-20 (4k/year)
S/C Oil - OEM Eaton/Jaguar Oil (45k/7years)
Trans Oil - ZF LG8 (45k/7years)
DIff Oil - E-Diff, OEM Castrol (45k/7years) **This is the only one that had a worrisome report**
The car had one previous owner with dealer service records, so as far as I could tell, it had only received "regular" oil changes per the service guide. If anything, they were done on the time basis, not mileage, as this car was a bit under driven. For anyone who has not used this service, its really cool and takes about 1-2 weeks depending on their workflow. Its $30 per sample. After a lot of service, a dyno, and some seat time I wanted to see if there were any problems with the car before I start modifying it. For what its worth... the e-diff functions fine, I will likely follow their instruction and change the fluid again in 5k mi or so.
Reports are attached!
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Jaaaggg (12-13-2021)
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Hope your E-diff is OK.
When I changed the fluid in mine it was very dirty and black looking. Thick and kind of chunky too. What I read was these have CF clutches and they shed carbon which of course is jet black. So I did not worry about it and new fluid is always good. That was about 7K-10K miles ago and so far it seems fine. I do race a bit so it's seen very high speeds too.
Sure glad at least for the rear end Jaguar made it very simple to service. Has a drain and fill plug but of course Jaguar had to make both plugs DIFFERENT!
Why Jaguar?? Ones square and ones hex.
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When I changed the fluid in mine it was very dirty and black looking. Thick and kind of chunky too. What I read was these have CF clutches and they shed carbon which of course is jet black. So I did not worry about it and new fluid is always good. That was about 7K-10K miles ago and so far it seems fine. I do race a bit so it's seen very high speeds too.
Sure glad at least for the rear end Jaguar made it very simple to service. Has a drain and fill plug but of course Jaguar had to make both plugs DIFFERENT!
Why Jaguar?? Ones square and ones hex.
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Hope your E-diff is OK.
When I changed the fluid in mine it was very dirty and black looking. Thick and kind of chunky too. What I read was these have CF clutches and they shed carbon which of course is jet black. So I did not worry about it and new fluid is always good. That was about 7K-10K miles ago and so far it seems fine. I do race a bit so it's seen very high speeds too.
Sure glad at least for the rear end Jaguar made it very simple to service. Has a drain and fill plug but of course Jaguar had to make both plugs DIFFERENT!
Why Jaguar?? Ones square and ones hex.
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When I changed the fluid in mine it was very dirty and black looking. Thick and kind of chunky too. What I read was these have CF clutches and they shed carbon which of course is jet black. So I did not worry about it and new fluid is always good. That was about 7K-10K miles ago and so far it seems fine. I do race a bit so it's seen very high speeds too.
Sure glad at least for the rear end Jaguar made it very simple to service. Has a drain and fill plug but of course Jaguar had to make both plugs DIFFERENT!
Why Jaguar?? Ones square and ones hex.
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Just wanted to share my experience for anyone interested to know about E-Diffs in the V8 Supercharged models
I did my first Diff fluid change at 40K miles. It was terrible looking and I had symptoms or grinding while turning. After the first change it was good as new, well for only 3K miles (@43K miles) then it started the damn grinding feeling/noise again while turning and applying throttle at low speeds. At this point I was convinced I needed a new diff.
Looking online for new units + labor I was about to fork out $3000 to change it. So I had to do "The Last Hurrah" approach and change the fluid again but this time decided to add AMSOIL friction modifier/ Clutch treatment fluid with the diff fluid (Which was also Amsoil Gear oil 75-90) and this was done again @ 43K miles and about 6 months ago
Fast forward to today 13/12/2021 and 10K miles later the diff still functions flawlessly.
Hope this helps anyone/everyone searching for a solution
I did my first Diff fluid change at 40K miles. It was terrible looking and I had symptoms or grinding while turning. After the first change it was good as new, well for only 3K miles (@43K miles) then it started the damn grinding feeling/noise again while turning and applying throttle at low speeds. At this point I was convinced I needed a new diff.
Looking online for new units + labor I was about to fork out $3000 to change it. So I had to do "The Last Hurrah" approach and change the fluid again but this time decided to add AMSOIL friction modifier/ Clutch treatment fluid with the diff fluid (Which was also Amsoil Gear oil 75-90) and this was done again @ 43K miles and about 6 months ago
Fast forward to today 13/12/2021 and 10K miles later the diff still functions flawlessly.
Hope this helps anyone/everyone searching for a solution
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I bought the LR e-diff oil which supposedly already comes with additives, so I opted not to mix anything else. No more grabbing and rear end shimmy and the old oil was well beyond healthy. Highly recommend everyone with an e-diff to get this done at a 2yr/20k mile frequency at the most. The weird part is, my 2012 XFR had 80k hard driven miles (mountain runs, 1/4 miles, drifting, donuts/burnouts) on the original oil and I never had any diff issues.
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DeviLSh (12-25-2021)
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Interesting about the additives as I have never heard any recommendation except to use the proper rated rear diff oil.
croco your signature shows a 2004 model? These did not come with the E-diff so a completely different animal.
Did you put the additive in a E-diff unit? Maybe in a different car?
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croco your signature shows a 2004 model? These did not come with the E-diff so a completely different animal.
Did you put the additive in a E-diff unit? Maybe in a different car?
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Interesting about the additives as I have never heard any recommendation except to use the proper rated rear diff oil.
croco your signature shows a 2004 model? These did not come with the E-diff so a completely different animal.
Did you put the additive in a E-diff unit? Maybe in a different car?
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croco your signature shows a 2004 model? These did not come with the E-diff so a completely different animal.
Did you put the additive in a E-diff unit? Maybe in a different car?
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