No different then someone using conventional oil as far as frequency. - "Just a little tanker".

 

Yep.
I change my engine oil every six months, which for me works out around every 4,000 km.
I do 95% very short trips, shops and back etc, where the engine doesn't even get close to full operating temp.
There is masses of information that this pattern of usage is very very bad for the engine oil, especially on GDI engines.
This then effects (via the EGR and PCV systems) many components of the engine including sludge build up in the intake tracts and on the backs of the inlet valves, and particularly important on our AJ133 and AJ126 engines the timing chains.
I have all the time in the world, the oil I use which is within spec is relatively cheap (I can get it for $40 AU or less for 5 litres), and it's a 20 minute job with an oil extraction vacuum pump.
Very cheap preventive maintenance IMHO!
Things are different for those who do regular long trips, they can possibly get away with 12 month oil change intervals.

 

Same here - though probably around 5-6k miles, ever since my engine rebuild for sure.

Oil is cheap. I don't get why you'd want to leave it so long between changes - everyone trusted ZF that their transmission was "lifetime fill", and now even ZF themselves are "Uhhh, actually". How much do you spend on gas every month? I fail to see why people want to "eke out" as much as they can from the lubricant for a highly-tuned engine that is obviously not bullet-proof in a car that was never cheap in the first place in order to just save money.

If you want a car where you can run it without so much as an oil change for years on end then go buy a Toyota Camry.

 

Wow, you guys don’t paint a pretty picture about these engines. Are they really this fragile?

 

Yes.
It least the timing chains on the older V8s before JLR upgraded them some time in 2012.
And pretty much all the plastic coolant system hoses and pipes.

 

all direct injection engines need extremely clean oil for proper lubrication and smooth flow. Any engine with high horsepower needs high maintenance to be reliable and efficient. Any neigh sayers will pay the price. These are great engines if treated properly, capable of serious horse power.
Treat them like standard run of the mill engines and you will have serious problems down the road.
oil changes are cheap.....engines are not. You high mileage oil change guys need to carry a spare engine in your trunk.....
155,000 KM on a 2013 XF AWD 3.0 SC tuned to 450HP
zero issues.....

 

yes !!!
Ill take more oil over another rebuild using recommended dealer maintenance specs ....

 

Leaving your oil in your engine for 12 months or 15K miles is like keeping your underwear on for a week to me.

Proven that even the highest quality oils start breaking down after the first 1000 miles. (No I am not saying change it every 1000 miles).

I personally would never ever run oil for more than 5000 miles or 8000km on my XFR or six months. Buy a Camry if you like doing long change intervals and worry about environment and/or costs.

These are high performance cars with GDI so oil dilution is more than other vehicles without it.

Just remember one thing, we all have heard issues with cars that do long oil change intervals, we just never heard engines breaking because of changing the oil too soon.

So yeah I'll take the extra cost of $500-$800 of more frequent oil changes throughout the ownership period than a $20,000 repair billl for a new engine.

Also last but not least, and especially during cold days startups let your engines warmup for 2-5 minutes before takeoff.

Best of Luck

 

Typically these are the same guys that ask if they can run regular gas when the car calls for premium.

It's a game with them to see what they can get away, without a catastrophe, before they trade it. Then some poor sucker gets a ticking time bomb.

If it's not new and the oil change intervals can't be validated or are reasonable...run, don't walk if you're looking to buy. There's no telling what else hasn't been taken care of.

 

Which also blows my mind. If you're trying to save literally a couple of dollars per fill-up, then maybe these aren't the cars for you.

 

No, they aren't. These are high performance engines and reasonable oil changes are very cheap insurance.

Nissan, Ford, and Toyota have approximately 5,000 mile oil changes. Why would any one think that 10,000 miles or more would be acceptable on a high performance engine in a Jaguar?

It's cheap enough to change, why take the risk?

 

Well all those manufactures you mention have now all went to extended drain intervals as well.
My wife has a 2013 Lincoln MKS with the 365HP twin Turbo and Ford says 10K miles/1 year.
I have also went to a 6-8K miles change interval.

My 2014 XJR says 16K miles! No way for me.

We had one member Bigg Will who had an early XFR with the troublesome tensioners. He changed his oil every 2K miles using Walmart synthetic oil.
When he traded the car off with 110K+ miles it was still all original with no timing chain noises.
Was it the oil? Who knows but he was very particular about his car maintenance for sure!
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My 2017 Nissan Titan is 5,000miles which is still one of the shortest. My MB E400 is roughly 10,000 miles.

The XF, the Titan, and the E400 all get changed at 5,000 miles (or 12 months)

Audi was an early adopter of 10K oil changes back in 2001. The factory fill for an A4 back then was Mobil1 and Audi provided the 10K oil changes for free (but only mineral oil). I paid the upcharge for M1 and paid the full charge at 5K, 15K, 25K, etc. while it was under warranty. After warranty it was 5K M1 oil changes with my trusty Topsider...which I still use today.

That particular A4 was one of very few that didn't have a blown turbo and/or a gunked up valve cover (integrated emissions) causing oil to be blown everywhere.

Prior to that, my 1985 BMW 318i made it to 200K with zero engine work before it was traded....5K M1 oil changes.

My personal experience is that 5K synthetic oil changes seem to work well in a variety of cars, trucks, etc. Your mileage may vary.