Hello
our car is a 2013 Sportbrake, 3.0D and the rear subframe is a little scabby - enough to get advisory at MOT time at least. I could just wire brush what can be reached and wax everything in sight, but am toying with acquiring a spare subframe and refurbing it properly at my leisure.

So, the question is about compatibility. I assume an X260 is no use, what about an X250 saloon? (I suspect not) . What about one from a 2.2 Sportbrake? ( probably ok?)

I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who knows the differences and can help me clarify what I need to look out for.

Thanks and regards
Tim

 

Check the part number to the vin, for your car and the proposed replacement. The frames look mostly the same, the sports brake, has external differences, see items 9.10,11,12 brace, reinforcers etc.

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.../brand/jaguar/

I have a 2010 3.0ltr D rear sub frame blasted, rust killed, primed and painted going into the STR eventually.

Lost faith in Waxing everything, just seems to hold the water underneath.

The best option is to catch-it before it get too bad, and keep onto of it.(easier said that done)

Usually lots of Diesels being broken, and some under sides are not too bad, for blasting and painting as spare. Just have to pick the right one.

 

Hi bydand,

I was very interested to read your comment "Usually lots of Diesels being broken" . Could you elaborate more please. I have a 2008 XF diesel and understandably because of its age I take a lot of interest in any references to both it being a diesel and any age related issues. For reference I have been very lucky in that I keep my car very well maintained by an independent Jaguar specialist who has been servicing and restoring Jaguars for over 40 years so my car is in good hands as far as that goes. I only use it it for long distance touring (last long trip 8,500km) and as part of the cleaning regime I make a point of pressure cleaning the underbody so there is no build up of mud and grime to hold moisture and lastly we have a dry climate here in Australia and the car is garaged so out of the weather. In the 15 coming up to 16 years I've owned it I've only had engine mounts and the front steering bushes replaced.

Appreciate your additional advice.

Gee Vee xf

 

Greetings Gee Vee.

For sure.

In the UK there are many more Diesels than Petrol engined. Mostly due to fuel economy issues.
Unfortunately, most people do not use it as intended, or as you do. Long trips and high loads/speeds. Rather the reverse, short trips at low loads, city driving. The engines quickly get sooted up and never recover. Not properly re-gend, and fuel in the oil contamination. Assisted by poor incomplete servicing, repair. Resulting in major engine issues.
Check out the UK boards/forums. A litany of repeat diesel issues.

Hence uneconomic to repair and end up in the breakers yard, mostly in good condition apart from the engines. An issue dating back to the S type diesels, and getting progressively worse with the never ending goal in reducing emissions by re generation etc. from the early 2.7s the later 2.7s with re gen and the later 3.0ltr diesels in the XF,s and others LR etc.

A couple of points here.

You are not lucky! If you do
A. Regular servicing at the recommended intervals, and
B. Drive the car as it was intended.

a win win.

If you neglect either one or both of the above, it will end in tears. As even those with petrol direct Injection engines are finding out.

Another point in your favour, is location, and under body washing to prevent mud build up.
Location as in not having snow, therefore salt on the roads, with equals heavy underside corrosion. (read North west europe and the North West/North East of the USA)
Remember The UK is a rather small, cold wet salty Island where a long journey is 50 miles.

Appreciate your additional advice.

Keep doing what you're doing. Servicing, and long drive use. You do not state how many miles she is on. Protect from the sun garage and sun screen to keep the body work and leather looking good.
Watch LR time you tube videos for the early 2.7/3.0ltr LR engine maintenance and oil grade comments.

The XF suspension set up and transmission is similar to the S type. So replace rubber boots on bearing when showing signs of damage.Cheaper than replacing the whole arm/mount etc.
The under body paint protection is the same as that of the UK , so poor, and is mechanically damaged easily with sand and grit in the air flow. Which is further accelerated by salt and corrosion. So any further protection of sharp edges of sub frames, under body braces etc with a refresh of a good quality paint can only be of benefit.

When renewing any drop links, tie rods, repaint and grease the threads. (lasts longer and easier to get off to replace the rubber boots.)
Change your transmission fluid and filter at 65K, and your rear diff oil.

She will last a life time.

 

Many thanks bydand. I sent you a comprehensive reply and photo. I don't know what happened to it. Appreciate yr advice.

Cheers

GV

 

Its the thought that counts.
Enjoy all your highway drives, breakdown free.