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Old 11-17-2021, 09:18 AM
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Hi, had my XF S 2011 pre facelift since July and love it, apart from one thing - the stereo. I have no amp and one speaker and tweeter in each door, nothing else.
Recently bought the B & W speakers for the front doors to start of with ( at that point i thought i had amp and three basic speakers in the front doors ).

I've fitted the larger speaker, not really noticed much difference which i guess is down to the standard head unit not being good or powerful enough. Need to cut out the holes to fit the smaller speakers which ill do this weekend.
My question is i found these 2 threads -

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-audio-178264/

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ispreloading=1

Which have been very helpful. What id like to know, is the amp and head unit which Cambo suggests the only combination to get? For example i probably wouldn't get the Jag subwoofer that goes in the spare wheel well. Maybe go for something like an active underseat sub. I think this would get its signal from the rear speakers ?
I may not even bother with the rear surround speakers in the parcel shelf, not sure yet. Im really looking for a decent improvement on whats already there. If i get the head unit that Cambo suggests does it matter what amp i get in regards to power output? Are the B & W and the Meridian amps the same or interchangeable ?
Finally I'm in then UK so would need someone to configure the CCF for me, thanks for help and advice.

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Now fitted the mid speakers but slight change of direction. Don't think ill change to surround system, i think its premium system, just all door speakers and sub. How do i find the part numbers for the compatible cd player, amp and sub ? Thanks
 
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Thanks, appreciate that. So many head units there I have no idea which one I need ? The part numbers on there are different to the part numbers on eBay for example.
I think I need a 6 disc head unit and the matching Premium sound amp. So hard to find all the info. Someone must have done before ?
 
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Thank you so much. My search skills are obviously rubbish lol. Ive ordered those, hopefully its straight plug and play with no CCF files needing adjusting. My car has a spare wheel so next step will be deciding whether to go for the Jag sub or an active powered one.


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Originally Posted by darkeyesoflondon
hopefully its straight plug and play with no CCF files needing adjusting
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the CCF does need editing.
 
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The last two are fairly obvious you'd think but again, this is for my XK

These are the settings to change in the CCF from Base to Premium;


RADIO_AMP_AND_SPEAKER_SYSTEM
Change from 0x02 Audio 'Base Performance' 4*25W, 6 speakers
To 0x04 Audio 'Premium Sound' 4*70W, 12 speakers


CENTRE_SPEAKER_DASHBOARD
Change from Without center speaker
To Small center speaker


SUBWOOFER
Change from Without subwoofer
To Subwoofer
 
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Really ? Seller said theyr'e from same car, would that not mean they'd work without changing the CCF files ?

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the CCF does need editing.
 
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Ok, i wont be using the centre speaker. I thought this amp didnt have that output ?

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The last two are fairly obvious you'd think but again, this is for my XK

These are the settings to change in the CCF from Base to Premium;


RADIO_AMP_AND_SPEAKER_SYSTEM
Change from 0x02 Audio 'Base Performance' 4*25W, 6 speakers
To 0x04 Audio 'Premium Sound' 4*70W, 12 speakers


CENTRE_SPEAKER_DASHBOARD
Change from Without center speaker
To Small center speaker


SUBWOOFER
Change from Without subwoofer
To Subwoofer
 
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Originally Posted by darkeyesoflondon
Really ? Seller said theyr'e from same car, would that not mean they'd work without changing the CCF files ?
Yes. CCF and firmware are two different things. CCF tells your car what functionality it has and firmware tells the module what functionality it has. It's good that they're from the same car so now you won't have to flash the correct firmware onto the amplifier. But you still need to tell the car it now has the new functionality, hence editing the CCF.
 
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Thanks, so my next problem is finding someone who can do this for me. Ill probably wait till i get the subwoofer.


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Yes. CCF and firmware are two different things. CCF tells your car what functionality it has and firmware tells the module what functionality it has. It's good that they're from the same car so now you won't have to flash the correct firmware onto the amplifier. But you still need to tell the car it now has the new functionality, hence editing the CCF.
 
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Originally Posted by darkeyesoflondon
Ok, i wont be using the centre speaker. I thought this amp didnt have that output ?
I was just showing you my setup. The XF has different ones. I see from above, you understand now that you will be installing modules that were built for your model (the links I sent) and you also need to use CCF to turn them on as mojo88 notes.

Yes I would wait to install everything before moving forward with finding someone with CCF. An indy should be able to do this for you. The selections in CCF are limited. Good luck!
 
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Originally Posted by darkeyesoflondon
Thanks, so my next problem is finding someone who can do this for me. Ill probably wait till i get the subwoofer.
I'm an hour and a half's drive away from you if you cannot find anyone closer to you.

Sean W's CCF parameters are correct for the pre-facelift X250. The facelift has a different B&W sound system.
 
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Really appreciate your offer. The seller is going to be in my city next week and offered to do the CCFs for me.
Thank you for the offer of help


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I'm an hour and a half's drive away from you if you cannot find anyone closer to you.

Sean W's CCF parameters are correct for the pre-facelift X250. The facelift has a different B&W sound system.
 
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Id like to thank you all for helping me with this, i tried all groups etc but you guys are the ones that helped me sort this finally.
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Originally Posted by darkeyesoflondon
Really appreciate your offer. The seller is going to be in my city next week and offered to do the CCFs for me.
Thank you for the offer of help
Even better! It's good when things pan out like that. Keep us updated.
 
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Hi, about to fit the amp and the car is supposed to be pre wired for it. Can anyone show me which connectors go where ? Thanks



 
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