Supercharger tensioner/coupler rattle
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I'll look into the paperwork regarding warranty. When I had the CPO done, I made sure it is an extension to the Jaguar Factory warranty that is 4 year or 80,000 KM here in Canada. CPO extends the warranty by 2 years and up to 160,000 KM, past that, you can not get Jaguar extended or CPO warranty. Any extension that comes past that time frame is third party. So to clarify, the CPO warranty I have is extension of the manufacturer warranty, I'd never waste money on 3rd party coverages, that said, would JLR corporate even deal with me if the warranty was from a third party?
Update on the case with JLR: I spoke to Carol today, she said the same thing - Can't help you since you're already dealing with a representative, and if you decide to close and re-open the case, the same rep will be reassigned (Dont know why), I explained the whole ordeal and she submitted my claim as an "Escalation". I'm expecting a call back tomorrow.
Update on the case with JLR: I spoke to Carol today, she said the same thing - Can't help you since you're already dealing with a representative, and if you decide to close and re-open the case, the same rep will be reassigned (Dont know why), I explained the whole ordeal and she submitted my claim as an "Escalation". I'm expecting a call back tomorrow.
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Update:
Finally the owner of the dealership responded by saying "we have replaced parts in the past based on rattling sound they make; however, Jaguar never reimbursed us for it. We can't change any part unless it's completely broken/ has an affect on drivibility of the vehicle or an engine light lights up"
As it stands, I've been offered 60% discount VIA JLR, bringing the cost down to ~$1700.
I was also told that supercharger will eventually get louder and ultimately break but not any time soon. I'm planning on selling the car with 4 months of CPO warranty left on it. I'm already taking a significant loss on it as is, but feel the need to take the 60% offer and change the supercharger for the new owner as they may not realize the fault before the warranty is up or not be able to renegotiate the repair as I have due to veing a long term customer.
Any thoughts are welcome, and thank you everyone who took their time to read through my rant and offered suggestions and general help.
Cheers!
Finally the owner of the dealership responded by saying "we have replaced parts in the past based on rattling sound they make; however, Jaguar never reimbursed us for it. We can't change any part unless it's completely broken/ has an affect on drivibility of the vehicle or an engine light lights up"
As it stands, I've been offered 60% discount VIA JLR, bringing the cost down to ~$1700.
I was also told that supercharger will eventually get louder and ultimately break but not any time soon. I'm planning on selling the car with 4 months of CPO warranty left on it. I'm already taking a significant loss on it as is, but feel the need to take the 60% offer and change the supercharger for the new owner as they may not realize the fault before the warranty is up or not be able to renegotiate the repair as I have due to veing a long term customer.
Any thoughts are welcome, and thank you everyone who took their time to read through my rant and offered suggestions and general help.
Cheers!
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Just caught this.
My dealer is awesome, so many times did a quick Diagnosis and did not charge a thing, so there's that.
My 2012 XFR went in to get the dashboard replaced for the leather shrinking issues under CPO (covered) . While I was talking to the service manager standing near the idling car he said he was hearing something in the super charger ( I asked him what I had not idea, never heard it or barely)
He had it taken back into the shop and they replaced the coupler no questions asked under original JRL CPO warranty (without me asking- car had 50K miles)
Now my 13 AWD 3.0 has the gravel sound in it and I KNOW what it sounds like, did not hear anything like that.
Side note, picked up a used entire 3.0 SC unit for 150 bucks today (44k) on it. I am going to replace the coupler, change the oil and install it if all the bearings check out. I will also look at it and see if it could benefit from porting and maybe try my hand on this one before installing.
I can get the paperwork for you so you can maybe hand it to JLR and ask why did they do this car and not mine. PM me if that will help.
My dealer is awesome, so many times did a quick Diagnosis and did not charge a thing, so there's that.
My 2012 XFR went in to get the dashboard replaced for the leather shrinking issues under CPO (covered) . While I was talking to the service manager standing near the idling car he said he was hearing something in the super charger ( I asked him what I had not idea, never heard it or barely)
He had it taken back into the shop and they replaced the coupler no questions asked under original JRL CPO warranty (without me asking- car had 50K miles)
Now my 13 AWD 3.0 has the gravel sound in it and I KNOW what it sounds like, did not hear anything like that.
Side note, picked up a used entire 3.0 SC unit for 150 bucks today (44k) on it. I am going to replace the coupler, change the oil and install it if all the bearings check out. I will also look at it and see if it could benefit from porting and maybe try my hand on this one before installing.
I can get the paperwork for you so you can maybe hand it to JLR and ask why did they do this car and not mine. PM me if that will help.
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Just caught this.
My dealer is awesome, so many times did a quick Diagnosis and did not charge a thing, so there's that.
My 2012 XFR went in to get the dashboard replaced for the leather shrinking issues under CPO (covered) . While I was talking to the service manager standing near the idling car he said he was hearing something in the super charger ( I asked him what I had not idea, never heard it or barely)
He had it taken back into the shop and they replaced the coupler no questions asked under original JRL CPO warranty (without me asking- car had 50K miles)
Now my 13 AWD 3.0 has the gravel sound in it and I KNOW what it sounds like, did not hear anything like that.
Side note, picked up a used entire 3.0 SC unit for 150 bucks today (44k) on it. I am going to replace the coupler, change the oil and install it if all the bearings check out. I will also look at it and see if it could benefit from porting and maybe try my hand on this one before installing.
I can get the paperwork for you so you can maybe hand it to JLR and ask why did they do this car and not mine. PM me if that will help.
My dealer is awesome, so many times did a quick Diagnosis and did not charge a thing, so there's that.
My 2012 XFR went in to get the dashboard replaced for the leather shrinking issues under CPO (covered) . While I was talking to the service manager standing near the idling car he said he was hearing something in the super charger ( I asked him what I had not idea, never heard it or barely)
He had it taken back into the shop and they replaced the coupler no questions asked under original JRL CPO warranty (without me asking- car had 50K miles)
Now my 13 AWD 3.0 has the gravel sound in it and I KNOW what it sounds like, did not hear anything like that.
Side note, picked up a used entire 3.0 SC unit for 150 bucks today (44k) on it. I am going to replace the coupler, change the oil and install it if all the bearings check out. I will also look at it and see if it could benefit from porting and maybe try my hand on this one before installing.
I can get the paperwork for you so you can maybe hand it to JLR and ask why did they do this car and not mine. PM me if that will help.
I decided to wait on changing the Supercharger unit for the time being, in case it decides to fail completely in the next few months and I can have it changed for "free".
I appreciate the offer and I will definitely take you up on it, but I dont imagine the service manager will take that into consideration. Doesnt hurt to try and so I will
Thanks!
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Thanks for the response Jssaab, timing couldnt be more perfect. I have a service appointment tomorrow to fix the headlight washer unit, and diagnosing a noticeably loud engine noise in the cabin (sounds like a whistle) that may or may not be tied to the black soot (in excess amount) coming out of the exhaust on start-up.
I decided to wait on changing the Supercharger unit for the time being, in case it decides to fail completely in the next few months and I can have it changed for "free".
I appreciate the offer and I will definitely take you up on it, but I dont imagine the service manager will take that into consideration. Doesnt hurt to try and so I will
Thanks!
I decided to wait on changing the Supercharger unit for the time being, in case it decides to fail completely in the next few months and I can have it changed for "free".
I appreciate the offer and I will definitely take you up on it, but I dont imagine the service manager will take that into consideration. Doesnt hurt to try and so I will
Thanks!
It's like saying a piston has gone but the car still moves ok...
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Thanks for the response Jssaab, timing couldnt be more perfect. I have a service appointment tomorrow to fix the headlight washer unit, and diagnosing a noticeably loud engine noise in the cabin (sounds like a whistle) that may or may not be tied to the black soot (in excess amount) coming out of the exhaust on start-up.
I decided to wait on changing the Supercharger unit for the time being, in case it decides to fail completely in the next few months and I can have it changed for "free".
I appreciate the offer and I will definitely take you up on it, but I dont imagine the service manager will take that into consideration. Doesnt hurt to try and so I will
Thanks!
I decided to wait on changing the Supercharger unit for the time being, in case it decides to fail completely in the next few months and I can have it changed for "free".
I appreciate the offer and I will definitely take you up on it, but I dont imagine the service manager will take that into consideration. Doesnt hurt to try and so I will
Thanks!
It's like saying a piston has gone but the car still moves ok...
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Then all you need to do is pull and replace.
Full rebuild kits are about $295 (bearings not rotor rebuild)
Of course you need to pull it (if that was included in your original costs)
check out qualitysuperchargers and thehighspeedlab.com both have ebay stores. I talked with both and they seem pretty knowledgeable
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There may or may not be a video here somewhere and bound to be at least one on the interwebz, just gotta keep searching until you find it/one!
It's a fairly big job as the whole supercharger has to come off to remove the snout and in turn to replace the coupler, so not a job for the unskilled and inexperienced shade tree mechanic.
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Many do it the other way around - get the coolant pipes changed out and do the coupler as well.
You might like to consider replacing many of the problematic plastic coolant system pipes with metal versions, several sellers now including Euro Amp and RKX and Euro Amp do full kits.
If yours is an older engine, AJ133 V8 SC in particular, then it's a matter of when not if one or more of those crappy plastic pipes fails and leaks, and if you don't catch it straight away before the engine really overheats the engine is toast.
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If you get a shop to replace the coupler you should get the coolant pipes/tubes, water pump and thermostat replaced "while you are in there".
Many do it the other way around - get the coolant pipes changed out and do the coupler as well.
You might like to consider replacing many of the problematic plastic coolant system pipes with metal versions, several sellers now including Euro Amp and RKX and Euro Amp do full kits.
If yours is an older engine, AJ133 V8 SC in particular, then it's a matter of when not if one or more of those crappy plastic pipes fails and leaks, and if you don't catch it straight away before the engine really overheats the engine is toast.
Many do it the other way around - get the coolant pipes changed out and do the coupler as well.
You might like to consider replacing many of the problematic plastic coolant system pipes with metal versions, several sellers now including Euro Amp and RKX and Euro Amp do full kits.
If yours is an older engine, AJ133 V8 SC in particular, then it's a matter of when not if one or more of those crappy plastic pipes fails and leaks, and if you don't catch it straight away before the engine really overheats the engine is toast.
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