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Old 04-02-2017, 06:34 AM
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I've just bought a 2010 XF 3.0 Diesel Premium Luxury with charcoal interior. I need to swap the bottom coin trap section of my door card.

My question is can the individual sections of the door card be swapped? So can I just remove the coin trap lower section from one door card and swap it with another?

Knowing this will help me as it means I don't need to find a perfect complete door card, I can just change out that section, so a salvage or breakers yard one will do. Jaguar unfortunately only sell the complete door card for £££, but there are some ok floating about on Ebay, which I can strip the bits off I need if they can be disassembled.
 
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:52 AM
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Here's some pics of the bit I need to swap.

 
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Sorry another question in addition to the above. Does any body know if a 2013 door card, is exactly the same as a 2010 doorcard. I'm looking at this, it looks very similar to mine - JAGUAR XF 2.2 DIESEL 2013 RHD DOOR CARD TRIM FRONT LEFT PASSENGER NEAR SIDE | eBay
 
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I've been looking a photos of the back of a front door card, to see if it's possible to remove the lower coin trap compartment as highlighted in green. It's hard to tell from the pictures, has anyone got any idea if it's possible from looking at these?


 

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Not quite sure why you would want to mess with taking it apart since they are only around a $100 on Ebay to start with. Once you have a replacement card in the right color swapping out the wood panel and switches is fairly straight forward. If Jaguar does not sell the individual part then I highly doubt that you could get a salvage yard to separate the two either since the chances of finding a used one with a damaged upper portion and good lower is very small. It most likely would have been thrown in the trash immediately after the switches were removed. These are cheap and easy 1st world problems!
 
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Originally Posted by kenbowen
Not quite sure why you would want to mess with taking it apart since they are only around a $100 on Ebay to start with. Once you have a replacement card in the right color swapping out the wood panel and switches is fairly straight forward. If Jaguar does not sell the individual part then I highly doubt that you could get a salvage yard to separate the two either since the chances of finding a used one with a damaged upper portion and good lower is very small. It most likely would have been thrown in the trash immediately after the switches were removed. These are cheap and easy 1st world problems!
Thanks, but I'm in the UK, there doesn't seem to be too many on our Ebay that look as though they are in good shape, all seem to have some visible marks or tears, that's why I wanted to explore the options just to swap out the lower bit. I agree it's easier just to swap the whole card.
 
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Short of waiting for the right one to come along I suppose the only other thing you could do would be to request that the seller of one in the US would cut off the lower half and send to you via slow boat and then do the replacement of the lower cover. I think I have seen some really good salvage parts pricing from some outfits in Poland. Luckily, you are dealing with the most popular color! Good Luck.
 
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Originally Posted by kenbowen
Short of waiting for the right one to come along I suppose the only other thing you could do would be to request that the seller of one in the US would cut off the lower half and send to you via slow boat and then do the replacement of the lower cover. I think I have seen some really good salvage parts pricing from some outfits in Poland. Luckily, you are dealing with the most popular color! Good Luck.
Thanks I can find quite a lot with a good lower section, there's just always one or two defects on other parts of the card. Was thinking if the lower bit is attached by torx bolts I could remove it, but it's hard to tell from the photos.

Yeah I'll have a look there is one in eastern europe, this one from Lithuania looks reasonable. JAGUAR XF 2.2 DIESEL 2013 RHD DOOR CARD TRIM FRONT LEFT PASSENGER NEAR SIDE | eBay
 
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They don't look like torx bolts.

On door cards I've worked with before, these joints have been the equivalent of Plastic rivets that have been melted on the back side, so splitting the two and rejoining them can be done (with a drill and glue) but it's probably not worth the effort imho.
 
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Originally Posted by davetibbs
They don't look like torx bolts.

On door cards I've worked with before, these joints have been the equivalent of Plastic rivets that have been melted on the back side, so splitting the two and rejoining them can be done (with a drill and glue) but it's probably not worth the effort imho.
Thanks this is the answer I've been looking for, I'll try for a good complete card know I know this.
 
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I'm looking at a door card from overseas, but need to check compatability.

This is the card I'm looking to buy (2013 2.2D XF) :



The only thing I can see is a little tiny dent in the leather top left but it could just be the light. It looks lighter but could just be the lighting.

And this is my card (2010 3.0D XF) :





So the question is it the top same card the same and do you think it looks ok to buy?
 
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I can't say for certain it's the same, but it certainly looks to be, and I'm not aware of there being any differences other than wood trim/leather colours, etc.

I can see the dent you're talking about - it may be possible to fix that or at least make it a lot less noticeable with steam etc.

Finally, I see you're in the UK (ex-pat here) - you may not find the door cards listed individually on eBay etc but it's worth finding auctions for people breaking whole cars and sending them a message to enquire about the door cards as you might find someone has what you're after but hasn't listed it. It certainly shouldn't require ordering from abroad. Failing that, try one of these 1st Choice find-a-part services and see what quotes you get back (though they're not always particularly competitive).
 
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Originally Posted by davetibbs
I can't say for certain it's the same, but it certainly looks to be, and I'm not aware of there being any differences other than wood trim/leather colours, etc.

I can see the dent you're talking about - it may be possible to fix that or at least make it a lot less noticeable with steam etc.

Finally, I see you're in the UK (ex-pat here) - you may not find the door cards listed individually on eBay etc but it's worth finding auctions for people breaking whole cars and sending them a message to enquire about the door cards as you might find someone has what you're after but hasn't listed it. It certainly shouldn't require ordering from abroad. Failing that, try one of these 1st Choice find-a-part services and see what quotes you get back (though they're not always particularly competitive).
Thanks it's makes sense that I could fix it, but also seems a bit backwards buying one faulty door card to swap with another. Having said that, I am heaving the leather repaired on my drivers seat though so that might be able to be done at the same time.

Yeah I've tried first choice and didn't get any quotes back. I had a looks a few local salvage places, but none have XF's. Not sure about the auctions you mention, not very upon sourcing parts.

This top card I'm looking at would be coming from Lithuania, it's £20 postage to UK, but I can make a cheeky offer and the supplier seems decent and will package it very well, it's protected by a delivery warranty.
 
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What's your budget here?

This item on eBay
certainly doesn't seem like a bad price. It's collection only but you could arrange a courier I'm sure. Plenty of others on there too.
 

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Originally Posted by davetibbs
What's your budget here?

This item on eBay
certainly doesn't seem like a bad price. It's collection only but you could arrange a courier I'm sure. Plenty of others on there too.
I'm looking at £50 to £80. Yes I've emailed that guy, he was to come back to me with some better pictures. I'm not sure he can deliver, waiting to here back.
 
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Well it looks like I'm nearly there and should get a card ordered tomorrow. My last query, the two door cards I'm looking at are from a 2013 and 2014 XF, my car is 2010 pre face lift.

The cards look exactly the same but I'm not 100% sure. Anyone know if they are definately compatible, wiring, fitting, rear etc? From the front they are shaped identically as far as I can tell.
 
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You may want to be extra careful of the leather color since many times the ebony black option was used on portfolio and sport models. Their gray/black option has nearly the same color (just a tad lighter than the charcoal code of LEG) and many times has different stitching run across the dash and carried out into the tops of the leather door panels.
 
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Well taken a gamble, door card ordered from a 2014 2.2D XF. Made several phone calls, but I couldn't confirm with either a Jag Specialist, the salvage company or Jaguar themselves if the cards are compatible as there was no vin available for the card I purchased. From a visual point of view I studied the front and rear of the door cards from several online website and they appear the same, but it's hard to tell.

There is a slight dink in the leather of the one I purchased, but otherwise it's in great condition and the trimmer sorting my drivers will take care of the dink.

This is the one I've gone for :







This is my current door card :

 
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Originally Posted by kenbowen
You may want to be extra careful of the leather color since many times the ebony black option was used on portfolio and sport models. Their gray/black option has nearly the same color (just a tad lighter than the charcoal code of LEG) and many times has different stitching run across the dash and carried out into the tops of the leather door panels.
I hope I've got it right, yikes, pictures above.
 
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Originally Posted by kenbowen
You may want to be extra careful of the leather color since many times the ebony black option was used on portfolio and sport models. Their gray/black option has nearly the same color (just a tad lighter than the charcoal code of LEG) and many times has different stitching run across the dash and carried out into the tops of the leather door panels.
Just reading the above again is making me slightly nervous I could have mistakenly ordered the wrong colour door card, it looks fine comparing the pictures I've linked above, but hard to tell from photos I guess. The stitching looks similar on both, the colour looks similar but I probably won't know for sure until it arrives. I'm not sure if they changed the leather on newer cards, it looks to have more of a textured grain but again I think thats down to the closer up pics they took.

It's not to late for me to cancel the order if anyone spots that I've made a fatal flaw, it looks fine to me but there was no vin to compare mine with, so I can't be 100% sure!!
 

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