XF and XFR ( X250 ) 2007 - 2015

The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #21  
Old 11-10-2012, 12:09 PM
BigCat09's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 1,051
Received 357 Likes on 174 Posts
Default

Take the LED back out. Now look at the 2 tiny wire leads on the base. Just like Christmas lights you have to bend or move that tiny wire ver a tad to make sure it makes contact i nthe socket. Same way you do with the lights on your Christmas tree when 1 bulb wen out, you have to figet with the tiny wire to center it. Sounds lie a pain but it reallly isnt, just realizing what the cause is was a pita.
 
  #22  
Old 11-10-2012, 12:26 PM
hlgeorge's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA USA
Posts: 3,474
Received 256 Likes on 200 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BigCat09
Take the LED back out. Now look at the 2 tiny wire leads on the base. Just like Christmas lights you have to bend or move that tiny wire ver a tad to make sure it makes contact i nthe socket. Same way you do with the lights on your Christmas tree when 1 bulb wen out, you have to figet with the tiny wire to center it. Sounds lie a pain but it reallly isnt, just realizing what the cause is was a pita.
Did that, but it kept on blinking on and off. Finally figured out the problem. When the wires were inserted into the plastic plug, they weren't long enough and they moved when the wires were moved. They attempted to put a drop of 'glue' in the plug cavity, but none held. I removed the drop of glue, lengthened the contact wires and filled the plug cavity with hot glue and now the contact wires don't move when the wires from the connector plug are moved. Sometimes we just have to improve on China products. Pix attached.


 
Attached Thumbnails The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-t10plug1.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-t10plug2.jpg  

Last edited by hlgeorge; 03-21-2013 at 04:24 PM.
  #23  
Old 11-14-2012, 04:47 PM
hlgeorge's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA USA
Posts: 3,474
Received 256 Likes on 200 Posts
Default My experience changing to LED interior lights.

My lamps finally came (from China) and I was ready to get started. Using BigCat09's photos gave me a very good reference to start.

The Front Panel:
I made two “pulling tools” from large paperclips. The small loops were inserted as shown and I kept a slight twist pressure until the loop turned freely and then pulled it down to catch on the panel edge on each side. A good grip and a firm pull deployed the front interior light panel. The twist and pull sockets made it easy to turn the lamp around if I didn’t get it in proper polarity. After checking that the lamps were working, snap the panel back into place.

The "pulling Tools":


The "Pulling Tools" attached to frame:


The Rear Panel:
I thought I was to just pull the panel from the sunroof side and it would easily snap out. WRONG! Using my fingers, I was pulling very hard and it was not coming loose. I was pulling on one corner and apparently torqued the panel enough to snap open one side of the clear lens. The Ah-Ha moment! I was supposed to remove the clear lens first. The lens has two large tabs on its hinge point that hold the whole panel in place. Lesson learned. The clear lens can be removed by prying it down from the rear of the car side of it. Pull it out and the panel will drop down. Replace the lamps, check for correct polarity, position the panel back into place and snap the clear lens back on.

Lens open:


Another view:


Back in place:


Lamps I used:
 

Last edited by hlgeorge; 11-15-2012 at 12:41 AM.
The following 5 users liked this post by hlgeorge:
blaydes99 (03-21-2013), blrx7r1 (01-31-2014), Cobalt (05-25-2014), fabfive (02-02-2014), Thor82 (10-20-2015)
  #24  
Old 12-13-2012, 05:27 PM
hlgeorge's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA USA
Posts: 3,474
Received 256 Likes on 200 Posts
Default

Now with the final lamps replaced in the visors, all interior lights are LED!

 
Attached Thumbnails The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-t503s.jpg  
  #25  
Old 12-17-2012, 04:54 PM
hlgeorge's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA USA
Posts: 3,474
Received 256 Likes on 200 Posts
Default Update:

Originally Posted by hlgeorge
I did the panel floor lamps today as done by BigCat09. They worked very well except they were a bitch to install. I couldn't get the plugs to fit into the lamp sockets and when I finally did, I had to remove them to bend the plugs wires to make contact with the socket contacts. The passenger side is still a little iffy. It kept going on and off when I wiggled the plug in the socket. I pulled it out slightly and it quit, so I left it alone, but I have a suspicion I will have to work on it more. Looks great though!! Waiting on the LEDs for the overhead lights to arrive.
My footwell panel lights had 24 LEDs in it(BigCat09 had 12 in his) and was way too bright. I didn't want to pry the panels loose, so I took a perminant blue marker and colored the tops of each LED. Turned out very well. Light is dimmer and has a slightly blue hue that matches the lighting on the door switches.
 

Last edited by hlgeorge; 12-17-2012 at 04:57 PM.
  #26  
Old 03-25-2013, 06:52 PM
Reaxions's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Atlanta, GA (Dunwoody)
Posts: 675
Received 179 Likes on 122 Posts
Default

With BigCat09's advice/help, I also replaced all of my interior lights to those LED's a while back and I haven't had one problem yet.
 
  #27  
Old 05-23-2013, 01:44 AM
Ish's Avatar
Ish
Ish is offline
Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sandbox Metropolis
Posts: 73
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

It was a two week wait for them to arrive on this side of the pond:


8 pairs of the 5K 194 bulbs, 2 pairs of the amber 194s, lo beam bulbs, and reverse light bulbs.

Its the start of my weekend (Thursday is this regions Friday equivalent), so updates will be posted as I get it done. Photography-wise, I've already gotten the baseline "before" photos taken, and I'll be posting the "in-progress" shots as I go along, and then get a good set of "after" shots.
 
Attached Thumbnails The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-ledall_zps8f6b65f8.jpg  
  #28  
Old 05-23-2013, 01:57 AM
Ish's Avatar
Ish
Ish is offline
Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sandbox Metropolis
Posts: 73
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by hlgeorge
Now with the final lamps replaced in the visors, all interior lights are LED!

Do you have the number for those bulbs? Forgot about those in my initial order.
 
  #29  
Old 05-23-2013, 12:21 PM
BigCat09's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 1,051
Received 357 Likes on 174 Posts
Default

I am glad others are adding to this thread. I hope it is helping everyone find what they need instead of making lots of new threads. Thank you all for updating this.

Also, I hope those who have tried the VLEDs are happy. For another great company try autoillumination. Not cheap but they have lots of styles and types and the build is great!
 
  #30  
Old 05-23-2013, 05:39 PM
hlgeorge's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA USA
Posts: 3,474
Received 256 Likes on 200 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ish
Do you have the number for those bulbs? Forgot about those in my initial order.
They are T5 lamps. Just be sure they are not too long as they will be a tight fit.
 
The following users liked this post:
Ish (05-24-2013)
  #31  
Old 05-24-2013, 08:06 PM
Ish's Avatar
Ish
Ish is offline
Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sandbox Metropolis
Posts: 73
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Weekend started out busier that I expected, so I've only gotten the rear light assembly completed. These are the 194 5-LED units that have been recommended.



It appeared to me that there is enough room to put in a longer/larger diameter bulb with a few more LEDs in there with the same base if you wanted to go brighter than the 5 that have been recommended.



You can see the color difference in this shot:


Suns coming up, so let me see if I can get the front dome/map and foot well lights done before its too bright (and hot...)
 
Attached Thumbnails The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-ledrearassy1_zps49f3e0a1.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-ledint2_zps8266f945.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-ledint1_zps636de4db.jpg  
  #32  
Old 05-25-2013, 11:34 PM
Ish's Avatar
Ish
Ish is offline
Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sandbox Metropolis
Posts: 73
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Got the headlight bulbs switched out as far as I'm going to go for now. I'm still on the fence about adding the LED turn signals because of the wire splicing involved...

Anyway, I swapped out the parking & high beam bulbs. Tool-wise, I used a 10mm socket, 6 inch #1 flat tip screwdriver, needle nose pliers, and a star bit, but I'll have to get back to ya on the size.

I found it was much easier to get to the headlight bolt in the wheel well if wheels were turned to the opposite side of the car, ie left hand assy, wheels turned to the right.

The plug assy clip lifted up with finger strength, and just wiggle it back off the headlight assy:


The parking light receptacle is shaped like a long pull tab. I pulled it out with a pair of small needle nose pliers. The bulb just pulls right out. I put the LED bulb in, but don't put it back in its well until after you test it. You have a 50/50 shot on getting the polarity right/wrong. I had it wrong the first time, so just flip it 180, and bam, it shone as advertised.


 
Attached Thumbnails The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0332_zps26bcb9f1.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0335_zpsb06b7a42.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0334_zpse490ba0f.jpg  
  #33  
Old 05-25-2013, 11:59 PM
Ish's Avatar
Ish
Ish is offline
Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sandbox Metropolis
Posts: 73
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

The hi-beams were done next.

The retaining clips for the hi-beam bulbs are metal, so I used the small flat tip screwdriver to lift up the tabs. Lift one clip with the screwdriver, wiggle the plug off a little so that the clip wont re-engage, and then lift off the other clip with the screwdriver, and pull the plug straight off.



Loosen one or both of the screws, and turn the retainer counter-clockwise to remove it if it hasn't fallen off by itself after you loosened the screws. NOTE the position of the retainer on the receptacle, as it makes it reassembly faster if its aligned the same way it came off.

The head of the screw is desighend for a star bit, but I just used the small needle nose pliers I had handy. If you dont have start bits handy, a flat tip inserted in the star recess would work also if the screwdriver blade can contact both sides of the screw head.



Old halogen, new LED.


Just reverse the process to re-assemble, but don't tighten the screws all the way until after you test it.

At this point, I plugged in the main plug, but don't push it down to where it re-engages the clip. Turn on the lights and you should have all the lights shinin'. Note that the parking light bulb is hanging above the assy on its wires:



If everything works, turn everything off, disconnect the main plug, tighten the screws for the hi-beams, push the parking light bulb back into its receptacle, RE-INSTALL the cover, then push the main plug all the way down on its receptacle till the clip clicks, reinstall the three 10mm bolts, test the lights again, and if everything works, move onto the other side.

It took me about 45 minutes to do this one side. The other side went a lot quicker because I knew what to expect.
 
Attached Thumbnails The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0336_zps4e6dde4a.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0333_zps4607a9fd.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0337_zpsc87a65fb.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0338_zps802fa883.jpg  
The following users liked this post:
Cobalt (05-25-2014)
  #34  
Old 05-26-2013, 12:05 AM
Ish's Avatar
Ish
Ish is offline
Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sandbox Metropolis
Posts: 73
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Some quick & dirty color comparison pics I took with my throwdown camera before the sun set all the way:

Drivers side with LED hi-beam bulb, passenger side with original halogen bulb:


Parking lights, LED on drivers side, halogen on passenger side
 
Attached Thumbnails The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0339_zpsd4289ceb.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0340_zpse30523cc.jpg  
  #35  
Old 05-26-2013, 12:09 AM
Ish's Avatar
Ish
Ish is offline
Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sandbox Metropolis
Posts: 73
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Some better shots taken around sunrise this morning with my other camera:

LED parking lights:


I like the color, but I'm going to see if I can find something brighter. There is plenty of room in the headlight assy for a longer bulb with more LEDs on it than the 5-LED 194 bulb used.

LED hi-beams:


Foot wells are next.
 
Attached Thumbnails The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0341_zpsd02d9313.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0342_zps305975b4.jpg  

Last edited by Ish; 05-26-2013 at 12:12 AM.
  #36  
Old 05-26-2013, 12:25 AM
Ish's Avatar
Ish
Ish is offline
Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sandbox Metropolis
Posts: 73
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

For the foot wells I used another pair of the 194 5-LED bulbs.

Squeeze the black, rectangular clips and pull them off. The foot well liners should come right off. Twist and pull the light receptacle back out off the bracket. Pull the bulb out of the socket, but it will be hot by this time. I used a pair of pliers I had handy on the bulb, but obviously, you cant squeeze very hard or the bulb will shatter. Put the replacement LED in and it should light up immediately IF the polarity is correct. If not, pull it out, turn it 180, put back in, should work this time. Put the socket back in the bracket, replace the liner and retaining clips. Shouldn't take more than 30 minutes to do both sides even if middle age has robbed you of a lot of flexibility from your youth...



 
Attached Thumbnails The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0331_zpsf125cc7e.jpg   The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread-img_0330_zps541c5b95.jpg  

Last edited by Ish; 05-26-2013 at 12:27 AM.
The following users liked this post:
fabfive (02-02-2014)
  #37  
Old 05-26-2013, 12:33 AM
Ish's Avatar
Ish
Ish is offline
Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sandbox Metropolis
Posts: 73
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BigCat09

Also, I hope those who have tried the VLEDs are happy. For another great company try autoillumination. Not cheap but they have lots of styles and types and the build is great!
BigC, its autolumination.com. No I, one L after auto.
 
  #38  
Old 01-31-2014, 09:40 AM
RodTee XF's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 212
Received 57 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Have any of you had any issues with your lighting system due to your LEDs? I read somewhere a while back that running too many LEDs is not good for your electrical system...didn't know if it was true or not.
 
  #39  
Old 02-11-2014, 11:27 AM
RodTee XF's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 212
Received 57 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Thanks to all of you, I am now almost all LED'd out! Only things left to do are my low beams, reverse lights and cutting the DRLs into the bumper blade. VERY helpful thread!
 
  #40  
Old 02-11-2014, 11:04 PM
RodTee XF's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 212
Received 57 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

BigCat, HLGeorge, did ya'll ever figure out how to get the glove box bulb?
 
The following users liked this post:
Mystro9876 (07-17-2017)


Quick Reply: The Ultimate LED Q&A Thread



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:51 PM.