Upper Coolant Pipe
#1
Upper Coolant Pipe
Hi All,
This upper coolant pipe split (Part #C2Z28534) and the mechanic wants to charge 5 hours. I think he wants to change the water pump (for no reason).
Looks to me like it's some hose clamps and torque bolts.
Do I have to move a bunch of stuff to replace it?
Am I missing something????
THANKS !!!!
This upper coolant pipe split (Part #C2Z28534) and the mechanic wants to charge 5 hours. I think he wants to change the water pump (for no reason).
Looks to me like it's some hose clamps and torque bolts.
Do I have to move a bunch of stuff to replace it?
Am I missing something????
THANKS !!!!
#2
The coolant pipe was redesigned and as a result it has to be changed along with another one. This requires the supercharger to be removed.
More info:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...42170-9999.pdf
More info:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...42170-9999.pdf
#3
THANK YOU MoJo88 !!!!
I have a 2014 XF 3.0 Flex Fuel ... do I have a supercharger???
Anyway, the mechanic says to go with the new style pipes I have to change both because the fittings are different ... again, does this make sense?
Anyway, I can find the old version (it's a Land Rover part) then I can just swap out the upper pipe and keep my fingers crossed that the lower one doesn't split.
I'm planning on getting a new car in less than a year. so don't want to spend money on my Jag if I don't need to.
I have a 2014 XF 3.0 Flex Fuel ... do I have a supercharger???
Anyway, the mechanic says to go with the new style pipes I have to change both because the fittings are different ... again, does this make sense?
Anyway, I can find the old version (it's a Land Rover part) then I can just swap out the upper pipe and keep my fingers crossed that the lower one doesn't split.
I'm planning on getting a new car in less than a year. so don't want to spend money on my Jag if I don't need to.
Last edited by tapau; 11-30-2021 at 11:02 AM.
#4
THANK YOU MoJo88 !!!!
You're welcome.
I have a 2014 XF 3.0 Flex Fuel ... do I have a supercharger???
Anyway, the mechanic says to go with the new style pipes I have to change both because the fittings are different ... again, does this make sense?
As I have already mentioned above and also in the document. Yes, it does make sense.
Anyway, I can find the old version (it's a Land Rover part) then I can just swap out the upper pipe and keep my fingers crossed that the lower one doesn't split.
That will not work.
I'm planning on getting a new car in less than a year. so don't want to spend money on my Jag if I don't need to.
You need to, or potentially face a bigger bill in the future.
You're welcome.
I have a 2014 XF 3.0 Flex Fuel ... do I have a supercharger???
Anyway, the mechanic says to go with the new style pipes I have to change both because the fittings are different ... again, does this make sense?
As I have already mentioned above and also in the document. Yes, it does make sense.
Anyway, I can find the old version (it's a Land Rover part) then I can just swap out the upper pipe and keep my fingers crossed that the lower one doesn't split.
That will not work.
I'm planning on getting a new car in less than a year. so don't want to spend money on my Jag if I don't need to.
You need to, or potentially face a bigger bill in the future.
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#6
As you can imagine, these are NOT the answers I want to hear ... BUT ... will take everyone's advice.
Last questions:
1. Why won't the Land Rover part work? The actual part on my Jag says both Jaguar and Land Rover?
2. Should I have them replace the water pump also or just the pipes?
Thanks again.
Last questions:
1. Why won't the Land Rover part work? The actual part on my Jag says both Jaguar and Land Rover?
2. Should I have them replace the water pump also or just the pipes?
Thanks again.
Last edited by tapau; 11-30-2021 at 03:16 PM.
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But again that won't work, the newer plastic part is not compatible with the older alloy part, as you can see the alloy part is only "part" of that updated pipe.
And tapau, if you have a 2014 XF 3.0 petrol and you are Stateside then it can only be the AJ126 V6 which by definition is supercharged, and shares almost all of those coolant pipes and tubes with the AJ133 5.0 V8 supercharged.
In your pic you can see the the top of the SC drive belt (sitting on the SC pulley) just below and to the left of the word "Jaguar" on the coolant pipe in question.
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Hey All,
The technical bulleting says the 2 bolts should be 10nm, which is 88.51 in-lbs. Does that sound right to you guys, I was able to use an T-30 allen wrench to get them off. There's no way I would have been able to do it by had if it was tightened at 10nm.
Thanks again. The pipe is in place, just need to get these bolt on right.
The technical bulleting says the 2 bolts should be 10nm, which is 88.51 in-lbs. Does that sound right to you guys, I was able to use an T-30 allen wrench to get them off. There's no way I would have been able to do it by had if it was tightened at 10nm.
Thanks again. The pipe is in place, just need to get these bolt on right.
#14
Hey All,
The technical bulleting says the 2 bolts should be 10nm, which is 88.51 in-lbs. Does that sound right to you guys, I was able to use an T-30 allen wrench to get them off. There's no way I would have been able to do it by had if it was tightened at 10nm.
Thanks again. The pipe is in place, just need to get these bolt on right.
The technical bulleting says the 2 bolts should be 10nm, which is 88.51 in-lbs. Does that sound right to you guys, I was able to use an T-30 allen wrench to get them off. There's no way I would have been able to do it by had if it was tightened at 10nm.
Thanks again. The pipe is in place, just need to get these bolt on right.
#15
You have the old part that will fail. That's what everyone is trying to tell you. Those big fat square seams are the problem. You need to install the current smooth seam pipes. Everywhere!
Here is what to look for;
Yes the old style part you have will bolt up but it is a known failure item and has been updated by Jaguar.
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Here is what to look for;
Yes the old style part you have will bolt up but it is a known failure item and has been updated by Jaguar.
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#16
Hey All,
The technical bulleting says the 2 bolts should be 10nm, which is 88.51 in-lbs. Does that sound right to you guys, I was able to use an T-30 allen wrench to get them off. There's no way I would have been able to do it by had if it was tightened at 10nm.
Thanks again. The pipe is in place, just need to get these bolt on right.
The technical bulleting says the 2 bolts should be 10nm, which is 88.51 in-lbs. Does that sound right to you guys, I was able to use an T-30 allen wrench to get them off. There's no way I would have been able to do it by had if it was tightened at 10nm.
Thanks again. The pipe is in place, just need to get these bolt on right.
Last edited by kansanbrit; 12-09-2021 at 09:00 AM.
#17
Finished changing out the upper pipe, no coolant leak drove it around and everything seemed fine, but now something isn't right and now I'm getting the check engine light OCR Error Codes P2187 - System Too Lean at Idle and P2189 - System Too Lean at Idle..
So FYI, we also ended up having to replace this tube, Part # C2Z14540.
It connects from the coolant reservoir to the upper pipe (the one we replaced) and then the other branch goes to the grey piece in the picture
I'm normally really careful before removing anything so that I can replace it exactly the way it was ... unfortunately, my hubby removed this tube and doesn't remember.
Here are the pictures, is this grey piece supposed to be connected to anything???? I think my husband pulled it out of somewhere an now it's just hanging there.
So FYI, we also ended up having to replace this tube, Part # C2Z14540.
It connects from the coolant reservoir to the upper pipe (the one we replaced) and then the other branch goes to the grey piece in the picture
I'm normally really careful before removing anything so that I can replace it exactly the way it was ... unfortunately, my hubby removed this tube and doesn't remember.
Here are the pictures, is this grey piece supposed to be connected to anything???? I think my husband pulled it out of somewhere an now it's just hanging there.
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Finished changing out the upper pipe, no coolant leak drove it around and everything seemed fine, but now something isn't right and now I'm getting the check engine light OCR Error Codes P2187 - System Too Lean at Idle and P2189 - System Too Lean at Idle..
So FYI, we also ended up having to replace this tube, Part # C2Z14540.
It connects from the coolant reservoir to the upper pipe (the one we replaced) and then the other branch goes to the grey piece in the picture
I'm normally really careful before removing anything so that I can replace it exactly the way it was ... unfortunately, my hubby removed this tube and doesn't remember.
Here are the pictures, is this grey piece supposed to be connected to anything???? I think my husband pulled it out of somewhere an now it's just hanging there.
So FYI, we also ended up having to replace this tube, Part # C2Z14540.
It connects from the coolant reservoir to the upper pipe (the one we replaced) and then the other branch goes to the grey piece in the picture
I'm normally really careful before removing anything so that I can replace it exactly the way it was ... unfortunately, my hubby removed this tube and doesn't remember.
Here are the pictures, is this grey piece supposed to be connected to anything???? I think my husband pulled it out of somewhere an now it's just hanging there.
I also replaced that coolant reservoir pipe on my F-Type, so far it has been the only coolant pipe failure, but of course I have now jinxed myself!
Good job you replaced it as it will nearly always eventually go brittle with age at one or both of those two small ends and crack or split.
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I forgot to add, DTCs P2187 and P2189 are both "system too lean at idle", it's just that one is Bank 1 and the other is Bank 2 so both banks at once.
Lots of possible causes but given the fiddling around with the upper coolant pipe my money is on a vacuum leak, so I suggest you check all intake system hoses, tubes and pipes are fully seated and clamped.
Lots of possible causes but given the fiddling around with the upper coolant pipe my money is on a vacuum leak, so I suggest you check all intake system hoses, tubes and pipes are fully seated and clamped.