Water Pump Failure
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It is just a guess as to when the water pump can fail. I do not know if that many kilometres/miles makes a difference.
A good idea is to check the water pump for leaks and seepage from time to time so you are not surprised with a loss of coolant when driving and the engine is destroyed due to overheating.
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Yes, the 3.0 NA has a different design and layout for the cooling system.
It is just a guess as to when the water pump can fail. I do not know if that many kilometres/miles makes a difference.
A good idea is to check the water pump for leaks and seepage from time to time so you are not surprised with a loss of coolant when driving and the engine is destroyed due to overheating.
It is just a guess as to when the water pump can fail. I do not know if that many kilometres/miles makes a difference.
A good idea is to check the water pump for leaks and seepage from time to time so you are not surprised with a loss of coolant when driving and the engine is destroyed due to overheating.
....I was just confused since we were talking about the XF, not the X-Type, but on that note I did kind of wonder why Jaguar didn't offer the current 3.0 in NA form instead of the borrowed 2.0L EcoBoost from Ford.
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While this is an old thread, in response to your question about the water pump failure: I used to be a Jaguar technician and the 5.0L water pump was an extremely common failure. It was something we looked for on every 5.0L (naturally aspirated and supercharged) for both leaks and pulley failure. The issue was not design related, but rather manufacturer related. Both Jaguar and the manufacturer of the pump itself did everything they could to deny that there was a problem, but we continued to see very low mileage failures of these pumps on an almost weekly basis. They had an issue with the pulley bushing failing and causing the pump to leak out of the weephole behind the pulley, leaking coolant onto the belt and in more extreme cases slinging coolant off the belt as well. This also caused the pulley to wobble, and if left unchecked fall off. We had to replace a few engines because of this. Trust me, your tech knows what he's talking about and hopefully they've finally fixed the issue. Aside from that, the 5.0L is one hell of an engine.
So I dropped my car off this week to have some things looked at, including the recall for the fuel line issue. Turns out I need a new drive belt and water pump. The tech said the water pump is a common issue (a search here turned up a few threads) and he belived the pump caused the belt to start to fail.
Either way, since this water pump is a known issue, is the new pump a better design than the original?
Thanks guys
2010 XF Supercharged 26k miles
Either way, since this water pump is a known issue, is the new pump a better design than the original?
Thanks guys
2010 XF Supercharged 26k miles
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Old thread but I just wanted to share my experience. I have a '10 XF Supercharged and noticed the smell of coolant about a week ago. I took it to the dealer and they said the water pump was bad. This was quite a surprise since I had less than 40,000 miles. I tried getting some assistance from Jaguar NA since it appears to be a known issue. The cost ended up being a little less than $800 to replace. In the end I was told that no, they couldn't help defray the cost. So yeah, thanks Jag!
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I have an 09 xfsc which has restricted performance warning. check the codes when check engine light came on which read water pump. I see nor hear any issues with the existing pump. Could it simply be a sensor for this part??? i recently had to change the coolant expansion tank. prior to this no issues..frustrated with getting all kinds of different views from dealers trying to rip me off i gather..Any guidance would be truly appreciated.
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I have an 09 xfsc which has restricted performance warning. check the codes when check engine light came on which read water pump. I see nor hear any issues with the existing pump. Could it simply be a sensor for this part??? i recently had to change the coolant expansion tank. prior to this no issues..frustrated with getting all kinds of different views from dealers trying to rip me off i gather..Any guidance would be truly appreciated.
The "Restricted performance" in addition to the water pump code is usually the electric water pump that's used to circulate coolant for the superchargers inter/charge cooler.
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My '10 XKR smelled coolant ever since I purchased it 3 year ago with 6K miles. Took it to the dealer for a pressure test and it tested out fine. No coolant is ever missing from the overflow reservoir.
I just completed a 1200 miles drive through some truly deserted desert roads from CA to Las Vegas and more. The smell was always there, fairly stong when ever I got out of the car or just simply lowered the window.
Needlessl to say it was hard to relax driving through hundreds of miles of empty deserts, sometimes not seeing and other vehicle for hours. I managed to come close to touching 160 MPH on a totally empty desert road with zero traffic. The car ran superbly and, once again, no missing coolant from the reservoir. I know I am not imagining the coolant smell, even my gorgeous passenger (not mechanically inclined) commented about it.
I am at loss for the cause for the smell.
I just completed a 1200 miles drive through some truly deserted desert roads from CA to Las Vegas and more. The smell was always there, fairly stong when ever I got out of the car or just simply lowered the window.
Needlessl to say it was hard to relax driving through hundreds of miles of empty deserts, sometimes not seeing and other vehicle for hours. I managed to come close to touching 160 MPH on a totally empty desert road with zero traffic. The car ran superbly and, once again, no missing coolant from the reservoir. I know I am not imagining the coolant smell, even my gorgeous passenger (not mechanically inclined) commented about it.
I am at loss for the cause for the smell.
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My '10 XKR smelled coolant ever since I purchased it 3 year ago with 6K miles. Took it to the dealer for a pressure test and it tested out fine. No coolant is ever missing from the overflow reservoir.
I just completed a 1200 miles drive through some truly deserted desert roads from CA to Las Vegas and more. The smell was always there, fairly stong when ever I got out of the car or just simply lowered the window.
Needlessl to say it was hard to relax driving through hundreds of miles of empty deserts, sometimes not seeing and other vehicle for hours. I managed to come close to touching 160 MPH on a totally empty desert road with zero traffic. The car ran superbly and, once again, no missing coolant from the reservoir. I know I am not imagining the coolant smell, even my gorgeous passenger (not mechanically inclined) commented about it.
I am at loss for the cause for the smell.
I just completed a 1200 miles drive through some truly deserted desert roads from CA to Las Vegas and more. The smell was always there, fairly stong when ever I got out of the car or just simply lowered the window.
Needlessl to say it was hard to relax driving through hundreds of miles of empty deserts, sometimes not seeing and other vehicle for hours. I managed to come close to touching 160 MPH on a totally empty desert road with zero traffic. The car ran superbly and, once again, no missing coolant from the reservoir. I know I am not imagining the coolant smell, even my gorgeous passenger (not mechanically inclined) commented about it.
I am at loss for the cause for the smell.
I'll hazard a guess, and say that prior to you purchasing the car, the original water pump failed, flung coolant all over the engine/engine compartment, and wasn't thoroughly cleaned off, after the new pump was installed.
I'd give the engine and surrounding area a good dousing with a cleaner like Simple Green, and then rinse off with a low pressure hose, avoiding the electrical connections wherever possible.
Back on the topic......with respect to the water pump failures. I have a 2009 XF, with the NA engine. Are these cars prone to have pump failures, AND do they also have the trouble prone plastic coolant crossover tube?
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>I have a 2009 XF, with the NA engine. Are these cars prone to have pump failures, AND do they also have the trouble prone plastic coolant crossover tube?
The '09 has the 4.2 and that is a very, very, stout engine. There are no known trouble areas like the 5.0 water pumps.
However the fragility of the coolant lines, etc., up front, is true. So be careful when "muck'n" around up ther'ah.
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The '09 has the 4.2 and that is a very, very, stout engine. There are no known trouble areas like the 5.0 water pumps.
However the fragility of the coolant lines, etc., up front, is true. So be careful when "muck'n" around up ther'ah.
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2015 JCNA National Slalom Champion Class M
Current: '08 S-Type 4.2 "Satin Edition" (250.06 whp / 259.67 torque)
Past: '05 X-Type 3.0/auto Jaguar Racing Green
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Oh, for anyone that has a 4.2 engine, I suggest that you occasionally take a look at the S-Type forum (S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 ) - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum) since that engine is discussed regularly over there.
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I think the majority of people have had it done under warranty but swapping the water pump shouldn't be too difficult. The plastic coolant pipes are prone to leak so you may want to replace them at the same time.
See this thread for the plastic lines I'm talking about: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...cement-165783/
See this thread for the plastic lines I'm talking about: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...cement-165783/
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