What would you change about your XF
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bad kitty....http://www.madisonjaguar.com/preowned_find.html
I love the XJs, but don't know if i could give up the rotating vents. Yes, they are a MUST! (;
I love the XJs, but don't know if i could give up the rotating vents. Yes, they are a MUST! (;
#45
bad kitty....http://www.madisonjaguar.com/preowned_find.html
I love the XJs, but don't know if i could give up the rotating vents. Yes, they are a MUST! (;
I love the XJs, but don't know if i could give up the rotating vents. Yes, they are a MUST! (;
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#47
I have had a XFSC for about three weeks and spent 8 days of those 3 weeks driving 2011/2012 XJL Loaners.
I like the XFSC rotating vents but I like the XJL vents better.
Here are some of my other observations,
Most importantly for me the XFSC has a wider backseat 3 car seats fit over the seating surface and align with the seatbelts female end.
The steering wheel controls on the XJL are better.
The XJL has more leg room but not to the point yet of making it a better choice for me. The XJL back seat is not as wide as the XF by about 2 inches. The middle car seat female end is under the other car seat so it takes a little longer to get going in the morning.
The flip down rear seat tray is nice, but my kids want to play with it so at our house its an annoyance.
I also have all the kids take off their shoes before I let them into the XJL loaners because its not my car and I want to keep it nice for the next person so that takes a little time.
The nav is slightly faster on the XJL
The XJL has dual moon roofs and manual sun shades on the rear doors.
The XJL has front massage seats and heated and cooled rear seats.
The XFSC has a deeper trunk, which was a surprise. We deliver food to six Rwandan refugee families every week and all 6 food boxes fit in the XFSC trunk, two had to go in the backseat of the XJL. These are the large cardboard boxes you see grocery stores stalking produce from.
Looks wise its a toss up they both are amazingly beautiful cars. If my kids were older and out of car seats I would have bought a XJL Supersport. In 3 years when I am done with the XFSC I may end up trading it in on a XJL SS.
I like the XFSC rotating vents but I like the XJL vents better.
Here are some of my other observations,
Most importantly for me the XFSC has a wider backseat 3 car seats fit over the seating surface and align with the seatbelts female end.
The steering wheel controls on the XJL are better.
The XJL has more leg room but not to the point yet of making it a better choice for me. The XJL back seat is not as wide as the XF by about 2 inches. The middle car seat female end is under the other car seat so it takes a little longer to get going in the morning.
The flip down rear seat tray is nice, but my kids want to play with it so at our house its an annoyance.
I also have all the kids take off their shoes before I let them into the XJL loaners because its not my car and I want to keep it nice for the next person so that takes a little time.
The nav is slightly faster on the XJL
The XJL has dual moon roofs and manual sun shades on the rear doors.
The XJL has front massage seats and heated and cooled rear seats.
The XFSC has a deeper trunk, which was a surprise. We deliver food to six Rwandan refugee families every week and all 6 food boxes fit in the XFSC trunk, two had to go in the backseat of the XJL. These are the large cardboard boxes you see grocery stores stalking produce from.
Looks wise its a toss up they both are amazingly beautiful cars. If my kids were older and out of car seats I would have bought a XJL Supersport. In 3 years when I am done with the XFSC I may end up trading it in on a XJL SS.
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#48
dont get me wrong, i really enjoyed the XF (despite the few little things that annoyed me)...but over all i dont regret my purchase.......but I wouldnt classify the opening vents as a "must have or no deal" thing
once i got back into the XJ scene...you quickly feel the $30k difference
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#50
I have had a XFSC for about three weeks and spent 8 days of those 3 weeks driving 2011/2012 XJL Loaners.
I like the XFSC rotating vents but I like the XJL vents better.
Here are some of my other observations,
Most importantly for me the XFSC has a wider backseat 3 car seats fit over the seating surface and align with the seatbelts female end.
The steering wheel controls on the XJL are better.
The XJL has more leg room but not to the point yet of making it a better choice for me. The XJL back seat is not as wide as the XF by about 2 inches. The middle car seat female end is under the other car seat so it takes a little longer to get going in the morning.
The flip down rear seat tray is nice, but my kids want to play with it so at our house its an annoyance.
I also have all the kids take off their shoes before I let them into the XJL loaners because its not my car and I want to keep it nice for the next person so that takes a little time.
The nav is slightly faster on the XJL
The XJL has dual moon roofs and manual sun shades on the rear doors.
The XJL has front massage seats and heated and cooled rear seats.
The XFSC has a deeper trunk, which was a surprise. We deliver food to six Rwandan refugee families every week and all 6 food boxes fit in the XFSC trunk, two had to go in the backseat of the XJL. These are the large cardboard boxes you see grocery stores stalking produce from.
Looks wise its a toss up they both are amazingly beautiful cars. If my kids were older and out of car seats I would have bought a XJL Supersport. In 3 years when I am done with the XFSC I may end up trading it in on a XJL SS.
I like the XFSC rotating vents but I like the XJL vents better.
Here are some of my other observations,
Most importantly for me the XFSC has a wider backseat 3 car seats fit over the seating surface and align with the seatbelts female end.
The steering wheel controls on the XJL are better.
The XJL has more leg room but not to the point yet of making it a better choice for me. The XJL back seat is not as wide as the XF by about 2 inches. The middle car seat female end is under the other car seat so it takes a little longer to get going in the morning.
The flip down rear seat tray is nice, but my kids want to play with it so at our house its an annoyance.
I also have all the kids take off their shoes before I let them into the XJL loaners because its not my car and I want to keep it nice for the next person so that takes a little time.
The nav is slightly faster on the XJL
The XJL has dual moon roofs and manual sun shades on the rear doors.
The XJL has front massage seats and heated and cooled rear seats.
The XFSC has a deeper trunk, which was a surprise. We deliver food to six Rwandan refugee families every week and all 6 food boxes fit in the XFSC trunk, two had to go in the backseat of the XJL. These are the large cardboard boxes you see grocery stores stalking produce from.
Looks wise its a toss up they both are amazingly beautiful cars. If my kids were older and out of car seats I would have bought a XJL Supersport. In 3 years when I am done with the XFSC I may end up trading it in on a XJL SS.
haha, yeah it was TOTALLY worth it. Ive always had XJ's (Vanden Plas models specifically)....and in 2009 when I was at the end of my lease, the X351's were not out yet....so i decided to grab an XF
dont get me wrong, i really enjoyed the XF (despite the few little things that annoyed me)...but over all i dont regret my purchase.......but I wouldnt classify the opening vents as a "must have or no deal" thing
once i got back into the XJ scene...you quickly feel the $30k difference
dont get me wrong, i really enjoyed the XF (despite the few little things that annoyed me)...but over all i dont regret my purchase.......but I wouldnt classify the opening vents as a "must have or no deal" thing
once i got back into the XJ scene...you quickly feel the $30k difference
I do truly believe, if these features were in a MB or BMW, it would be a huge hype. When in reality, both of the Germans, are behind times in certain ways.
When i test drove the 2010 E550 while back, i found the column shifter very disappointing - didn't like it at all. I expect nothing but high standards and innovation from the Silver Star, but it wasn't in the E class.
I am actually very fond of the XJ. Certain ways, it's body styling is better than the XF. The only thing i am not crazy about is the strip going around the edge of the dashboard. Never know, might find myself in one few years down the road.
#51
That s the F Type again.
Seriously, no 4 or 5 litre V8 could benefit from a manual shift box these days.
The manual box is going the way of the dodo bird. the new double clutch boxes are quicker.
The latest automatic (Mercedes) is doing away with a torque converter and uses a computer controlled lockup clutch only.
Seriously, no 4 or 5 litre V8 could benefit from a manual shift box these days.
The manual box is going the way of the dodo bird. the new double clutch boxes are quicker.
The latest automatic (Mercedes) is doing away with a torque converter and uses a computer controlled lockup clutch only.
Personally I'd love to see the manual option, in fact it is the absence of manuals in most of the mid to larger sport sedans that has led me to Jag as an option. The newer car, aside from the M5 which is maddeningly electronic don't offer a manual...as a result...I'm left with manumatics and automatics to choose from. A manual would make an XF MORE of a hands down winner than it already is.
The crime for me is that when you buy a great car usually 50% of the choice is the engine...well, it has been for me. That's what has brought me to the Jag - that 5.0 rumble won't leave my head! In my experience a manual gives you an extra bit of enjoyment from an engine that a paddle or auto will never replace.
For me, the rate of the shift has nothing to do with my choice, I'm not racing.
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#56
While a manual transmission is nice on my 1965 CJ-5 completely pointless on the XF. I don't understand on a car that does everything for you why anyone would want a extra peddal to fiddle with.
IF you want you can put it in S and Dynamic mode and press on the left foot rest when you pull the peddles
IF you want you can put it in S and Dynamic mode and press on the left foot rest when you pull the peddles
Its not fiddling if you truly enjoy shifting.
#57
The only way imho to enjoy driving this car to the max is Dynamic Mode on and shifter in S while shifting with your fingertips. Only then can I enjoy driving it as much as I like looking at the outside and inside, it really is beautifully designed in and out.
#59
Without paddle shifters I would not have purchased the car, I love the car but it truly is terrible to drive in D left to do its own shifting.
The only way imho to enjoy driving this car to the max is Dynamic Mode on and shifter in S while shifting with your fingertips. Only then can I enjoy driving it as much as I like looking at the outside and inside, it really is beautifully designed in and out.
The only way imho to enjoy driving this car to the max is Dynamic Mode on and shifter in S while shifting with your fingertips. Only then can I enjoy driving it as much as I like looking at the outside and inside, it really is beautifully designed in and out.
Another reason i favor automatics over manual is, computer will always shift much faster than anyone can with a manual.
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@09xfsuper
I drove a 5spd Toyota truck for about 200,000 miles when I was a service manager and 18-20. That really got the joy of shifting out of me. I enjoy it when I want to drive like a tool but my commute would be less enjoyable if I had a clutch to work.
@vapor trail
333 miles per tank wow your gentle with your car!