XF Gear selector
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Sarcasm is, they say..... Point taken though. Paddle quality is not sufficient to make me give up my Jag, however. Time to focus on something really important like the quality of the stitching down on the left side of the seats. Have you noticed....whatever.
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Hyperbole, not sarcasm. In order to qualify as sarcasm it has to bite personally on somebody. To make fun of something by mild ridicule is a kind of hyperbole or exaggeration for comic effect.
It is interesting how many people seem to think a high cost metal alloy switch to change gear is somehow required on a quality car. Given that the actual switching is done entirely electronically and indirectly via a computer I fail to see the need for a metal switch. In the heat of competition when one might exert unintended force on the switch or if the paddles are mounted on the steering column and are required to be long resulting in leverage forces to deal with maybe metal is justified. Otherwise these small plastic micro switches seem eminently suitable for the job.
The exterior door handles are a little clunky now you mention it.
It is interesting how many people seem to think a high cost metal alloy switch to change gear is somehow required on a quality car. Given that the actual switching is done entirely electronically and indirectly via a computer I fail to see the need for a metal switch. In the heat of competition when one might exert unintended force on the switch or if the paddles are mounted on the steering column and are required to be long resulting in leverage forces to deal with maybe metal is justified. Otherwise these small plastic micro switches seem eminently suitable for the job.
The exterior door handles are a little clunky now you mention it.
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It is simply all about tactility. You are right - the plastic paddles do the job adequately, but given the attention elsewhere in the car to design, feel and theatre (shift knob, pulsing start button, rotating air vents etc.) Jag could have done a better job with the paddles. They aren't worth complaining about, but they just don't fit in with the overall design and feel of the car.
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Truer words were never spoken. I wouldn't be surprised though if Jaguar crafts more special paddles in the future. I've never actually seen mine, and apparently they're even illuminated, but they've worked and felt just fine the odd time I've used them.
Love the shift knob, if for no other reason than it's different and a bit theatrical, and it does open up the console. Since the use of manual transmissions is practically extinct, I figure the need for it's lever is also... especially on an auto with paddles that performs as well on the road and track as the ZF does.
Bruce
Love the shift knob, if for no other reason than it's different and a bit theatrical, and it does open up the console. Since the use of manual transmissions is practically extinct, I figure the need for it's lever is also... especially on an auto with paddles that performs as well on the road and track as the ZF does.
Bruce
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At least it isn't the same shifter as the BMW F10. What a fantastically stupid shifter. When I test drove it, it was the most annoying shifter I've ever seen. I couldn't stop thinking WTF?.... Then I felt the awful turbo lag and did another WTF?.... Then I stopped by the Jag dealer and the rest is history. :-)
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I really don't get what the big deal is to people. Other than putting it in a place where you have to get out of the car to shift gears, does it really matter if it is a rotary knob or shift lever? Of all the time you are in the car put together over ownership you could probably fit the amount of time you spend using that rotary knob into a 5 minutes bucket. If you want the manual shift, use the paddle shifters. That's one area where they should be more robust than the black plastic. The rotary knob looks and feels great. Now that they've fixed the getting stuck issues, what's the beef? It's a conversation piece to every person that gets in my car. Never has someone said, "Wow, that sure is stupid". :-). To me that is like complaining about Porsche brakes because the calipers are not the color you want.
Your response grabbed my attention due to your comment about the "Shifter getting stuck issue has been fixed"
This is my second Jaguar (2010 XF) I have owned her for the last 6 years. I joined this forum to hopefully be able to find info I need when she is having her little Jaguar hiccups.
About a month ago when I started my car her rotary shifter did not pop up. I tried shutting her off and starting her again twice to no avail. I waited about an hour and tried again, this time she worked perfectly as always before I shifted her to drive and off on our adventure we went. Unfortunately a couple days ago when I stopped for gas it happened again. The rotary shifter did not pop up. I proceeded to turn the engine off and back on, this time that was all it took. The first try of restarting the engine and I was able to drive her away. However, this time the Engine Light illuminated.
My question is How do I go about getting this issue to not become a problem?
There is not a local Jaguar Dealer where I live. I do not mind driving a couple hours to help her, I love my car, although I tend to not have the greatest of luck when it comes to dealerships and communicating with them. How did the stuck shifter issue get resolved? I know it is only a matter of time before I feel the pain of being stuck if it does not get handled soon since twice she has warned me now.
Thank you for your time I appreciate wisdom always
Sincerely Tishia
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