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Old 10-23-2020, 12:42 PM
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Default 2009 jaguar xf supercharged

I had a question when this pump does go out or bad does it cause problems for the trans since it helps keep that cooled also?
 
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Originally Posted by GonzalesJ
I had a question when this pump does go out or bad does it cause problems for the trans since it helps keep that cooled also?
This pump has nothing to do with cooling the transmission, at least not on my 2015/16. This pump circulates coolant through the supercharger heat exchanger then back through the intercooler at the front of the car. It is a closed system that does not interact with any other cooling systems in the car.
 
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Old 10-24-2020, 12:31 PM
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If the charge cooling pump goes out you should see the car go into heat soak much easier. So a big drop off in power as the computer pulls timing and boost if the inlet air temperatures get too high.

How is your car driving? Any differences you can tell?
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My 06 str would go to restricted performance mode if I floored it on the freeway too long. I have the bosch pump now too and no problems
 
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Sweet car in your Avatar. I had 1970 440 6-pack 4 speed with the pistol shifter when I was 16.. Had the hemi suspension and wheels with the F60 tires and wing spoiler and fog lights . Was white with black vinyl top. Bought it from my Sophomore high school bio teacher for $800 dollars with 60 k on the clock in 1976, her father was a dealer and it was a demo so it was a weird mix of dealer add-ons and factory options.
 
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Hi,

Just a quick update for any fellow Brits (this could possibly be applicable worldwide, who knows) looking to complete the Bosch coolant pump replacement, the connector part no. 230-540-00-81 is now showing up on the Mercedes-Benz parts catalogue when ordering as 'Clutch, Mechanical' as shown on my copy invoice below, given the low cost, I took a gamble anyway and can confirm that the correct connector as pictured within Big Wills guide is what I received when I went to collect my parts. Unsure as to why the item has had a name change but hopefully this will help somebody out if they stumble across the same description.

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Good info as the part numbers have slightly changed since I posted mine.
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I apologize for bringing an old thread up. I was recently told that the supercharger electric coolant pump on my 2013 XF (V6, supercharged) is out and even though the car does not throw an error, it can come up anytime. So I'm looking to using this pump but I'm not sure if this will work with the 2013 model. Reading through the posts, it seems like it should fit any XF model but I just wanted to make sure before I purchased the part. Would anyone be able to provide more info on this?


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Old 07-06-2021, 07:45 PM
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Aimulaidni, if you go yo www.parts.harper jaguar.com, enter 2013 XF, under cooling system/intercooler you will find the pump identified as item #6, part #C2C1314, scroll down to “vehicle fitment” and you’ll see your 2013 xf 3.0l supercharged is listed
 
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Originally Posted by VetteOwner
Aimulaidni, if you go yo www.parts.harper jaguar.com, enter 2013 XF, under cooling system/intercooler you will find the pump identified as item #6, part #C2C1314, scroll down to “vehicle fitment” and you’ll see your 2013 xf 3.0l supercharged is listed
Thank you for your reply VetteOwner! I was asking if the Bosch part would fit my car as this is for Mercedes and I wasn't sure if this could be used for the 2013 XF as well. Also, I was told that the labor for this is about 4.5 hrs. Does this seem right in your experience?
 
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Old 07-07-2021, 10:21 AM
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Yes the Bosch pump will fit with some slight modifications. You really don't need the MB plugs either but they are cheap and it makes for a nice clean install. The real key is to remove the front bumper cover so you have access and some working room.
Can you DIY this? It's not a straight stock replacement so many shops will get confused or will only want to install a stock pump.

Just look at the pictures up thread to see how it fits.
Also see my thread with pictures. It's an XJR but the IC and pump stuff is the same for all Jaguar SC cars so might help?
IC Pump Upgrade
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Old 07-07-2021, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
Yes the Bosch pump will fit with some slight modifications. You really don't need the MB plugs either but they are cheap and it makes for a nice clean install. The real key is to remove the front bumper cover so you have access and some working room.
Can you DIY this? It's not a straight stock replacement so many shops will get confused or will only want to install a stock pump.
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Thank you for letting me know! Would there be a reason we wouldn't need the MB plugs? From reading through the posts it seems like we have to use those and solder them? Would there be another way to do this? I was hoping I could do this myself but I'm not sure if I have the right tools to take everything off and I have no idea how to plug the hoses or what to do with them so there is no coolant leak. I read and read the thread but I'm unable to understand what exactly to do. I can take off the front bumper but I'm not sure after that. I would like to do this myself and avoid a $900 repair but looks like I don't have a choice. The shops did say that they would be able to use a different one as its not stock and it needs modifications. What bothers me is also the fact that the tech at the dealership told me that I don't really have to switch it out if i don't push the engine too much but I was told by one of the members here that it's not advisable to drive the car for long without changing this. Are there any videos that go through this process in detail? All the ones i found online are for different cars and not particular to the XF.
 
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Old 07-07-2021, 12:55 PM
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Also, I just found this video on YouTube. Would the work be similar to this or is it different?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7jNZ4IGi3ME

 
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Old 07-08-2021, 12:24 PM
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Well the MB plug makes it easier but you could splice on other connectors that would work too?
So it's not mandatory to use the MB plug it's just cleaner and simpler.
The point is the Jaguar and Bosch pump have a different plug so you will need to cut off the Jaguar plug and replace it with something.

The pumps are configured the same. So all the stock hoses simply connect to the new 010 pump. See my link I posted above.
No you don't really need to upgrade the pump it's your call on that. There is no problem with staying with the stock pump either if you want to.

Do you have the service manual?
It free to download from the sticky topics at the top of the forum.
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Old 07-09-2021, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
Well the MB plug makes it easier but you could splice on other connectors that would work too?
So it's not mandatory to use the MB plug it's just cleaner and simpler.
The point is the Jaguar and Bosch pump have a different plug so you will need to cut off the Jaguar plug and replace it with something.

The pumps are configured the same. So all the stock hoses simply connect to the new 010 pump. See my link I posted above.
No you don't really need to upgrade the pump it's your call on that. There is no problem with staying with the stock pump either if you want to.

Do you have the service manual?
It free to download from the sticky topics at the top of the forum.
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Oh okay. I can stay with the stock pump but the only thing is it's 3 times more expensive than the Bosch pump. I would like to go with the Bosch one but I'm a little skeptical if I can make it work. Thank you for letting me know about the service manual! I don't have it. I was looking in the sticky topics but I couldn't get the service manual for my car's year. That would be in the handbook right? It's only listed for year 2016-present. I registered for TOPIX but I couldn't find a proper document there. Am I missing something?
 
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Old 08-05-2021, 08:54 AM
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Seeing as people are still referring to this thread in 2021....

The Mercedes plug can only be ordered from Mercedes, because they paid the people who make the connectors to put some unique 'Mercedes only' keying on the plug. However the plug is a TE MQS plug part number 1-967644-1. I believe it is the same plug that is used on VW cars for the heated windscreen washer connectors and in BMWs for the outside temperature sensor. In the UK this plug can be ordered on ebay for £1.75 and you don't have to wait a week for MB parts department to order it in. However if you do use the TE part number it requires a small plastic tab cutting off with a knife for it to fit. E.g. 1-967644-1 968405-1 8E0973202 8E0 973 202 (auto-click.co.uk) - the small piece of plastic protruding out next to pin 1 needs trimming off.

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Old 08-05-2021, 11:43 AM
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You really don't need the shop manual either.
Did you look at my thread I referenced up thread?
I have pictures of everything and it's not a difficult repair at all. Do yourself a favor and remove the front bumper. Then everything is out in the open to work on.

Thanks for the additional plug info. Very helpful!
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Hello, I know that the post is very old but...
I have a new Bosch pump and connector for sale in Europe.
 
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