crankshaft timing triangle not found
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crankshaft timing triangle not found
Need a bit of help on my Jag. 4.0 aj27 motor 1999 Vaden Plas. Found the crankshaft (flywheel) turned it many times to find the triangular arrow indent. Did not see it anywhere in the flywheel. Did see where someone has put some orange paint and not far from that I seen a white line that someone put on the flywheel. How do I set on the correct place so I can put the heads back on the motor. I broke a secondary timing chain and it bent two of the valves. Had the heads repaired and now ready to put them back on and can not find where the crankshaft should be at. Need help on how to set the lower end of motor before I put heads back on. Thanks all for your help.
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You will not find the triangle on an AJ27. If you look into the crank position sensor hole (obviously with the CKPS removed!) you will see one of the timing "holes" is slightly rounded on the ends, while the others are perfevtly rectangular. That the one. It does not sound like you have the tool to push into the hole to hold the crank. I would highly recommend getting one!
You know, it would be helpful if you could describe what you heard (if anything) before the chain broke, and how many miles were on the car, and how often you changed the oil (just kidding on that one), to help those who are in denial about the need to update their secondary tensioners.
You know, it would be helpful if you could describe what you heard (if anything) before the chain broke, and how many miles were on the car, and how often you changed the oil (just kidding on that one), to help those who are in denial about the need to update their secondary tensioners.
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had the car for about 4 months (yes changed oil about 2 months after buying car ) I do have the tool got a set off ebay. Just wished they had a (where this parts goes) instruction guide. Thank You to telling me what to look for as all the info I have gotten did not tell me to look for the slightly rounded ends. The chain did not do anything was easing from a stop light when I heard it break and I did not try to restart it as I know that sound from experience with other vehicles. Would be nice if Jaguar would release good info on the cars. I enjoy this car and plan to get an XJS also as soon as funds will allow. Thanks
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Here is some information on the flywheel (Flexplate) that SeanB provided in a related thread - No Timing Mark -
"notice the oval odd one out? That's the one the lock peg goes in"
Here is a JPEG I created showing the Photo that SeanB has in the other thread (photo right side) and another Ebay Photo of the Flywheel (Flexplate) (photo left side) - I added the red arrow to both photos to point out the oval odd one out (hole):
I think that the lock peg is tool part# JA-303-531 Setting Tool | V-8 Crankshaft, Through Flywheel:
JA-303-531 - Setting Tool V-8 Crankshaft, Through Flywheel
You might be able to borrow the 303-531 setting tool from forum member NBCat - Thread on loaning timing tools (post# 1):
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...20/#post471930
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/m.../nbcat-113077/
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"notice the oval odd one out? That's the one the lock peg goes in"
Here is a JPEG I created showing the Photo that SeanB has in the other thread (photo right side) and another Ebay Photo of the Flywheel (Flexplate) (photo left side) - I added the red arrow to both photos to point out the oval odd one out (hole):
I think that the lock peg is tool part# JA-303-531 Setting Tool | V-8 Crankshaft, Through Flywheel:
JA-303-531 - Setting Tool V-8 Crankshaft, Through Flywheel
You might be able to borrow the 303-531 setting tool from forum member NBCat - Thread on loaning timing tools (post# 1):
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...20/#post471930
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/m.../nbcat-113077/
Jim Lombardi
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Will do thank you guys for all the help. I have down loaded any different PDF files on the timing chain replacement. I did get new head bolts for the heads but I got the ones for the lincoln LS. They look the same as what I took out of the motor to begin with. Just need to look up the torque poundage and the sequence they are done. Some of the info in the course code:168 is a bit confusing but I will press forward. The next thing to get is a 3/4 to 1" ratchet to torque down the bolts. I broke all the 16mm sockets and a couple of 1/2" ratchets taking them off.
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