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Old 01-26-2013, 08:41 AM
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Any opinions regarding the XJ SC vs the XFR? Similar performance, etc. Would anyone choose the XFR over the XJ?
 
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The choice is very personal.

If my driving preferences were tilted towards all out performance and handling, I would choose the XFR. It is a smaller, more agile platform with super steering and great handling. It is the true sport sedan in the Jaguar lineup.

If I preferred unparalleled luxury AND great performance with still very good handling and very good steering, I would take the XJ SC. The XJ or XJL are far more luxurious from the inside with more imposing exterior dimensions and design and, while it has super performance it is really NOT a true sport sedan but, an elegant high performance saloon car.

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Originally Posted by axr6
The choice is very personal.

If my driving preferences were tilted towards all out performance and handling, I would choose the XFR. It is a smaller, more agile platform with super steering and great handling. It is the true sport sedan in the Jaguar lineup.

If I preferred unparalleled luxury AND great performance with still very good handling and very good steering, I would take the XJ SC. The XJ or XJL are far more luxurious from the inside with more imposing exterior dimensions and design and, while it has super performance it is really NOT a true sport sedan but, an elegant high performance saloon car.

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That is what I am thinking too. I have the '12 XJL SC and love the luxury aspect. I just wanted the SWB of the XJ or XF for sporting pretensions. :-) Perhaps the XJ SC or Supersport is the best compromise. I do, on occasion, tote my kiddos around and you can't beat the XJL for space. Then again, that is what my wife's Rover is for. Maybe I should just get the RR Autobiography? Lol! Decisions, decisions! First-world problems.
 
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:36 PM
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My new toy will be delivered to the dealer on Monday. Went with a '12 XJ SC with Sport and Speed pack, Illumination pack, in ebony with new ivory interior. I give up a few inches of rear legroom and the trays my kids never used and gain a more conveniently sized car that has better performance characteristics.

I can't wait to see what kind of fun I can get into with it!
 
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Congrats. Don't forget to post pics.
 
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Boo, hiss. The truck with my car on it is late to the dealer! I want my toy!
 
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Finally picked my new kitty up and it is AWESOME! The only disappointment is the older SAT/NAV interface. It is the older one with the smaller buttons, not quite as functional as the improved version I just gave up, but serviceable. It was a 2012.5 MY build, so I figured it would have the updated interface. Oh well.
Otherwise, good performance improvement versus the LWB variant. Feels much more buttoned down and is a looker with the Sport/Speed pack. Will figure out how to post pics here and get some soon!
 
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Regarding the touch screen with the small buttons. I bought my 2012 xjl on dec 2011. It is a 2012 model that was built in November of 2012. It came with the small buttons on the touchscreen. But when I bought it they said the early 2012 models weren't equipped with the upgraded version but that Jaguar required or gave all customers the option of upgrading. I drove the car for a month with the old version before the new system came in and they swapped it out. My point being every owner of a 2012 model should have been told they were eligible for the upgrade when they bought their early build 2012 model. You should ask your dealer.
 
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I meant to say it was built in November 2011 and a 2012 model.
 
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Originally Posted by pmichaelmd
Finally picked my new kitty up and it is AWESOME! The only disappointment is the older SAT/NAV interface. It is the older one with the smaller buttons, not quite as functional as the improved version I just gave up, but serviceable. It was a 2012.5 MY build, so I figured it would have the updated interface. Oh well.
Otherwise, good performance improvement versus the LWB variant. Feels much more buttoned down and is a looker with the Sport/Speed pack. Will figure out how to post pics here and get some soon!
Almost appears as if Jaguar used multiple assembly lines for the XJ series. When I got my new, early 2012 (21,XXX) Vin numbered XJL it came with the new SAT/NAV interface. At the same time on the lot was a new 2012 XJ with 25,XXX number which had the old interface. I actually asked the very old-time salesman about this apparent discrepancy and he had no idea that the different UIs even existed. Interesting issue. So far, the only obvious difference appear be XJL vs XJ.

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Old 02-10-2013, 07:31 PM
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My vin is 30xxx 2012 xjl early build. It came with the old setup. But like I said before they would deliver it to me they offered the upgrade. Anyone with a 2012 model and the Old touchscreen should inquire. It was only offered to 2012 models owners and not 2011's. anyone else have any other experience with this ?
 
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2012 models built december 2011 build forward also get a new glass screen, but the glass screen is not being retrofitted, only the new hard buttons and software. My XJL SC with build date end of Jan-2012 vin 32XXX has the upgraded glass screen, hard buttons and software.
 

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That is incorrect as mine was upgraded/ retrofitted with the new glass screen and buttons etc.
 
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congrats on the new toy.

its funny seeing people complain about the older nav system. i have the updated one and i absolutely want to stick my fist through it.......if mine is bad....i dont even want to think abut how bad yours is. i think id give the car back lol
 
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Originally Posted by carzaddict
congrats on the new toy.

its funny seeing people complain about the older nav system. i have the updated one and i absolutely want to stick my fist through it.......if mine is bad....i dont even want to think abut how bad yours is. i think id give the car back lol
After a few days with it, I think I can live with the older system. The largest difference is smaller buttons and more crowded menus. I think I won't even miss my old, updated sat/nav after a little more time. Plus, the feel of the SWB and look of the sport/speed pack makes me positively giddy! Now, to find the right ECU tuner and make it extra special!
 
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Originally Posted by Venture
Regarding the touch screen with the small buttons. I bought my 2012 xjl on dec 2011. It is a 2012 model that was built in November of 2012. It came with the small buttons on the touchscreen. But when I bought it they said the early 2012 models weren't equipped with the upgraded version but that Jaguar required or gave all customers the option of upgrading. I drove the car for a month with the old version before the new system came in and they swapped it out. My point being every owner of a 2012 model should have been told they were eligible for the upgrade when they bought their early build 2012 model. You should ask your dealer.
My 2012 XKRS came with the old slow Sat-Nav. I guess they did the switch in 2013?
 
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My 2012 XKRS came with the old slow Sat-Nav. I guess they did the switch in 2013?
Saw that in the '12 XKR-S. Don't know how they justify that. My "older" sat-nav is still the "newer" unit. Guess I shouldn't complain in that regard!
 
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Congrats on the new XJ!
Looking forward to seeing some photographs of the car.
 
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My 2012 XKRS came with the old slow Sat-Nav. I guess they did the switch in 2013?
the software on the XK and XF's are completely different than the XJ. but they share the same slow experience
 
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Congrats on the new ride. Rather have fast car and slow nav than the other way around.
 


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