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2013 XJ 3.0 AWD Supercharger and Cooling System Overhaul

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Old 04-02-2024, 08:22 AM
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Thanks - yes your right. I think we have had at least 2 people who fought with that.
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What about the Oil Cooler ? Not too expensive should it be changed or it does it rarely fail ?
 
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Originally Posted by JaguarXJL15
What about the Oil Cooler ? Not too expensive should it be changed or it does it rarely fail ?
The failure seems to be the gasket for the cooler. It's a big gasket. Worth changing that gasket at the minimum, and the little pipe that connects it to the water pump with its 2 orings.
 
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The failure seems to be the gasket for the cooler. It's a big gasket. Worth changing that gasket at the minimum, and the little pipe that connects it to the water pump with its 2 orings.
You mean this pipe here looks like it only has one o ring

Never mind I see there is another pipe that connects to the oil cooler which then connects to this other pipe that connects to the water pump
Where can I find these o rings?

 

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Originally Posted by lotusespritse
Can you please clarify?
Apologies for my delay, I think my grammar was poor there. I meant if you don't fix your coolant system with the metal pipes, well then you could lose your shirt...
BTW- I still can't get over your pair of cars... My goodness ! I mean the best year of the X351 and an e type.

I'd be interested have you ever driven any of the CL coupes by MB? In particular the C140 or C215. My Uncle had a couple of E types and a D type and a C type... many moons ago, before these things sky rocketed in price. I could say more; what a collection. Suffice to say I remember being a small boy and lying on (was it?) the flat rear shelf of the e type... PM if interested to hear more...
 
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Gotta love the Chinese descriptions too!
"Forged" cooling parts? I don't think so it's obviously an Aluminum casting (I hope it's not some kind of pot metal?) which is all that is required.

Now do be careful and inspect it completely BEFORE installing it? We have had at least one guy who found it completely blocked with metal from the manufacturing process. Nothing wrong with the part but he had to clean it up before use. Also split the tube and inspect the gasket. Again not great QC but the basic part is good.

ALL DI engines are noisy. They are now using the same technology as Diesels have used for decades (Direct Injection) and not surprisingly they sound a lot like a Diesel!
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Looks like a solid part
Are you sure about splitting the tube? looks like some gasket residue on the outside







 
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Old 04-04-2024, 08:24 AM
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Up to you but with what I have seen it's only a small amount of work to open it up and check before resealing it.
WAY better than installing it and then finding out it has problems.
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Old 04-24-2024, 12:03 PM
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The snout kit did not come with the coupler included? and oil? Why did you change the snout and not just the coupler?



 
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Originally Posted by JaguarXJL15
The snout kit did not come with the coupler included? and oil? Why did you change the snout and not just the coupler?
Snout comes with coupler, but not oil. The oil is only for the big gears in the back of the supercharger, so the snout never sees that oil.
 
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Old 04-24-2024, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JaguarXJL15
The snout kit did not come with the coupler included? and oil? Why did you change the snout and not just the coupler?
There’s a Jaguar reference out there for replacing the coupler with a 120* rotation on the snout shaft in order to not wear the shaft in the same spot.

However, I also read that you might as well replace the snout since it’s not that expensive and the shaft wear could be excessive. As it was, I thought the wear was significant, and I planned a replacement with an aftermarket snout.

Hindsight, if the few hundred dollars is not handy for the snout, it’s likely not necessary with the solid coupler not wearing the shaft in the same way.
 
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Old 04-25-2024, 08:33 AM
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griff831 thanks for the added bit of info that I have not seen before? But I am not sure about installing the coupler 120 degrees from the previous position? Just move it around the 3 drive pins? I guess if you marked how it came off you could move it to the next drive pin? Otherwise you would not know where it was to start with?




I have seen the snout shaft with grooves worn in it from the coupler so that is a real concern with just replacing the coupler. But I have not seen that shaft wear causes any other problems?

Mine has been clunking for many miles and I have a complete Jaguar snout assembly to replace it and I am still going back and forth about using the solid coupler.
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What tool did you used to open the metal fuel line the end that's going to the supercharger looks like its hard to get a normal wrench in there
 
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Originally Posted by JaguarXJL15
What tool did you used to open the metal fuel line the end that's going to the supercharger looks like its hard to get a normal wrench in there
I think a standard wrench on the exposed fuel line on the front left looking at the engine. For the one recessed on the right side, I may have used a narrow set of channel lock pliers I bought for the job. It definitely comes out and needs a rag to dry up the spilled fuel.
 
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Old 05-25-2024, 10:47 PM
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Where did you apply the "High Temp Gray RTV Gasket to seal" like in the picture the black being the sealant?





 
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Originally Posted by JaguarXJL15
Where did you apply the "High Temp Gray RTV Gasket to seal" like in the picture the black being the sealant?

I followed this guide nearly to the T, you can see a screenshot of the manual detailing this here:https://classicairheads.com/blog/202...r-replacement/

Then a 1mm bead of silicone sealant is applied as shown and the snout replaced and bolts torqued to 27Nm. If, like me, you find it very hard to get a neat 1mm bead be sure to wipe away the excess sealant inside the join while still soft.




 
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
griff831 thanks for the added bit of info that I have not seen before? But I am not sure about installing the coupler 120 degrees from the previous position?

Mine has been clunking for many miles and I have a complete Jaguar snout assembly to replace it and I am still going back and forth about using the solid coupler..
clubairth1, sorry for a late reply, I have had no issues in 9 months and ~9k miles with the solid coupler. I lost recommend going with the item I ordered and not a cheaper equivalent.
 
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Is this the supercharger oil you used?
 
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Originally Posted by JaguarXJL15
Is this the supercharger oil you used?
Yes, that’s the one I ordered off Amazon, but it takes a tad more than one, so I ordered two.
 
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Originally Posted by lotusespritse
The failure seems to be the gasket for the cooler. It's a big gasket. Worth changing that gasket at the minimum, and the little pipe that connects it to the water pump with its 2 orings.
The gasket for the oil cooler is metal. How does a metal gasket fail?
 
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Old 05-31-2024, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by griff831
Yes, that’s the one I ordered off Amazon, but it takes a tad more than one, so I ordered two.
Did you use any grease for o rings? also how did you bleed the air out of the cooling system?
 


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