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Old 03-27-2013, 10:11 AM
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they need to reduce the lineup to just base, super charged and R.......there are too many variants with very little differences
Good thing you don't own an BMW or Mercedes.
 
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:51 AM
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Jaguar,should have made the 2014 XJR a two door coupe it would haven been
more interesting.
 

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I am so mad that the most powerful XJ does not have 4 wheel drive option, instead a diesel only option will get one.
 
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DjiXas
I am so mad that the most powerful XJ does not have 4 wheel drive option, instead a diesel only option will get one.
they cant fit the AWD system with the V8...thats why they had to make a V6 version

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Good thing you don't own an BMW or Mercedes.
haha touche
 
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by carzaddict
haha touche
Porsche is the worse one of them all. So many different variants, it will give you a headache, trying to figure them out.
 
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by thisme
Jaguar,should have made the 2014 XJR a two door coupe it would haven more interesting.
They already have the XKR-S and now the XKR-S GT. are you saying they should introduce a new 2 door model along the lines of Audi S5 or BMW M6?
 

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Old 04-04-2013, 12:46 PM
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To understand the motif for 550HP XJ-R one only has to look at competition.
In $120K price range XJ-R is competing against CLS63, M5 and Panamera. All of them are in mid 500s HP range. You simply have to at very least match it, at best beat it.

It would be nice if they got to 600HP. Which is not that hard.
At some time you have to be the leader.

Will they sell thousands, no. Likely several hundred, but it is their most powerful model and it attracts attention. That is exactly why it exists.
 
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:03 PM
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You don't place yourself in a segment based on HP or torque.

Ford's F550 puts out 800ft-lb, doesn't mean it's competition is a Bugatti.

XJ-R is completely out of the league of the cars you specified.

It competes with the S63 AMG, 760Li/B7 and S8.
 
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:36 PM
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It does not matter what you think it should compete against.
Buyers are looking at price and HP. XJR is at the same price point as CLS63, M5 and Panamera S. This is what my clients are comparing it to.

In the end of the day it is about their lease payment, car prestige, wow factor and - yes, HP. Which very likely they will only use fully once a week, traffic permiting.
 
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XJ-R is between $15-20k more than every single car you stated.

If the XJ-R comepetes the M5, that would place the XFR in the M3's segment.
You should contact Jaguar and propose that serendipty. Obviously they are missing out on a huge market share. Only if they had a competitor agianst the S class and the 7 series.
 
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:21 PM
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Really!

Are you that thick??

Have you priced CLS63 or M5??? They are in $120K plus range.

I do this for a living, past 20 years.

I sell highline to US and Europe.

What do you do???
 
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Originally Posted by madkitty
Really!

Are you that thick??

Have you priced CLS63 or M5??? They are in $120K plus range.

I do this for a living, past 20 years.

I sell highline to US and Europe.

What do you do???
I will pm you some phone numbers for a few females, you can ask them if it's thick or not.

The president has a lot of exprience in politics too, the country is still going down the pipeline, and in debt the following $300000000000000000000
 
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Ordering mine on Monday - sent a bunch of questions to my salesperson today. Turning in my white XJL SS to get the R. Should arrive September!
 
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Originally Posted by xjsupersport
Ordering mine on Monday - sent a bunch of questions to my salesperson today. Turning in my white XJL SS to get the R. Should arrive September!
Hey mate, did you place an order for your car? How did it go...care to give us the specs of the car you ordered? (I already take it that it is white! )
 
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The fact of the matter is Jaguar was always going to build an XJR because they have always had an XJR. And in comparison to its competition which is the A8, 750iL, Panamera, S-Class it was absolutely necessary to have an R class XJ. The Audi S8 is faster than the Supersport and there is still an RS level after that. They could technical merge the Supercharged and Supersport and just have the Supercharged at 510 Hp seeing that its just retuning of the ECU.

I personally would never compare the CLS63 and M5 against the XJR just like I would compare the XJ against the CLS and 5 series. Totally different class. They are more comparable to the XFR-S. My question is will there be a XJR-S. Jaguar definitely needs to get there car naming convention in order. Supercharged, Supersport, and Ultimate needs to go away.

And whether the HP is needed or not shouldnt even come into play. If we use that logic does any car in America need to go faster than 85 MPH? I take my car to the limiter on a regular basis. 85mph is slow for me.
 
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