2016 -2019 XJ InControl Touch Pro 8” to 10.2” factory upgrade
#61
@silvertonesx24
Never choose that. Hardware maturity is very low. XJ is different from other cars. Because, Audio system and InControl are separate.
1. very slow booting. (does not support quick-boot option)
2. audio must be connected "again every time" when you start engine. (manually)
3. can't see the audio volume level.
4. can't climate control value.
5. ...
Yes, you must change to "original car display" every time If you want to see your XJ's setting. It's very uncomfortable UX. And you can't use the hardware buttons.
If your XJ is Harman Ent. system, replace the display. I threw away about $1,600. And I realized.
Never choose that. Hardware maturity is very low. XJ is different from other cars. Because, Audio system and InControl are separate.
1. very slow booting. (does not support quick-boot option)
2. audio must be connected "again every time" when you start engine. (manually)
3. can't see the audio volume level.
4. can't climate control value.
5. ...
Yes, you must change to "original car display" every time If you want to see your XJ's setting. It's very uncomfortable UX. And you can't use the hardware buttons.
If your XJ is Harman Ent. system, replace the display. I threw away about $1,600. And I realized.
Last edited by gloriashield; 12-15-2020 at 11:05 AM.
#62
After messaging gloriashield with some things to test, it appears the error shown above occurs everytime the CCF is reflashed regardless of the method used, so there may be an issue with the GWM or with the combination of SDD 160 and that version of the MongoosePro hardware interface. The BCM is the primary CCF source, with the GWM the backup, so the changes are taking effect in the car but there will remain a mismatch.
Cararescu, when it comes to the Android replacement screens I am unsure which, if any, work with the IMC based infotainment systems vs the older IAM ones. Given the replacements cost around $1000 USD each, and the hardware for the OEM 10.2" swap is available for much less, I doubt they have much demand for them for 2016+ XJs.
Cararescu, when it comes to the Android replacement screens I am unsure which, if any, work with the IMC based infotainment systems vs the older IAM ones. Given the replacements cost around $1000 USD each, and the hardware for the OEM 10.2" swap is available for much less, I doubt they have much demand for them for 2016+ XJs.
#63
Dealer said that SOTA enabled, but there is software version mismatch between slave controller (rear multimedia) and IMC, that is why they car says me that latest available is 19C.
They downloaded all the configurations and sent to Jaguar and awaiting the info how to resolve.
For the moment rear multimedia screens work, but they switch off after some time - about 10-15miinutes, like they go to sleep mode.To get it work again I need to do what old joke says about microsoft - when car stuck, the programmer should close all windows, quit it and restart it
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zYx (01-08-2021)
#64
#65
@silvertonesx24
Never choose that. Hardware maturity is very low. XJ is different from other cars. Because, Audio system and InControl are separate.
1. very slow booting. (does not support quick-boot option)
2. audio must be connected "again every time" when you start engine. (manually)
3. can't see the audio volume level.
4. can't climate control value.
5. ...
Yes, you must change to "original car display" every time If you want to see your XJ's setting. It's very uncomfortable UX. And you can't use the hardware buttons.
If your XJ is Harman Ent. system, replace the display. I threw away about $1,600. And I realized.
Never choose that. Hardware maturity is very low. XJ is different from other cars. Because, Audio system and InControl are separate.
1. very slow booting. (does not support quick-boot option)
2. audio must be connected "again every time" when you start engine. (manually)
3. can't see the audio volume level.
4. can't climate control value.
5. ...
Yes, you must change to "original car display" every time If you want to see your XJ's setting. It's very uncomfortable UX. And you can't use the hardware buttons.
If your XJ is Harman Ent. system, replace the display. I threw away about $1,600. And I realized.
I'm glad at least there are companies trying and making it better for OEM looking upgrades and hopefully that breathes some life into our cars. I can't see a Pioneer or Kenwood unit in a car like this. So 2000s JDM, ugh.
#69
I think you can change the maps by just installing the different region to your USB key, and then into the car, via the https://jaguar.here.com downloader. Exactly the same process you would follow to update the installed region maps.
I've had a look at my account and I can see all the other regions and the instructions appear to be the same for each. I can't test it without buying the maps though as I only have a European subscription.
I've had a look at my account and I can see all the other regions and the instructions appear to be the same for each. I can't test it without buying the maps though as I only have a European subscription.
#70
"Navigation Loading...." > "No response navigation."
If anybody have replaced display to 10-inch, be careful. You will not be able to use navigation when you go back to the 8-inch display after updated Here-Map. It is only solved by replacing the IMC. Of course, no one will go back to 8, right?
If anybody have replaced display to 10-inch, be careful. You will not be able to use navigation when you go back to the 8-inch display after updated Here-Map. It is only solved by replacing the IMC. Of course, no one will go back to 8, right?
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zYx (03-11-2021)
#71
Still fighting with rear multimedia - rear screens sometimes switch off. After they switched off - cannot get it on until I shut down and start car after few minutes. Have not got any logic to find exact sequence how to show it to dealer.
This strange behavior of rear multimedia restricts me for the moment to go to 10" upgrade, which I definitely want.
#72
After replaced IPMB, the camera system does not work.
@xdave @Cambo
Hi guys,
My Jag is LWB and it has 360" camera system. I replaced the display, so I had to change IPMB. I replaced IPMB today and part number is "HY32-14F026-AM". When I installed IPMB and turned on my jag, "Camera System Fault" came out on the cluster. Yes I need a programming my IPMB.
I changed WERS to JW93-19H423-AE, and programming was successful. However, camera system did not work. Unlike before, no messages were displayed on the cluster. I tried to JW93-19H423-AC next time, but there was no change.
There are 2 errors in DTC.
- U2300-55 : Central configuration
- U2100-00 : J_14229_DTC_U2100
Did I miss something? Please help me. It's very very frustrating because the camera system doesn't work.
Thanks!
Hi guys,
My Jag is LWB and it has 360" camera system. I replaced the display, so I had to change IPMB. I replaced IPMB today and part number is "HY32-14F026-AM". When I installed IPMB and turned on my jag, "Camera System Fault" came out on the cluster. Yes I need a programming my IPMB.
I changed WERS to JW93-19H423-AE, and programming was successful. However, camera system did not work. Unlike before, no messages were displayed on the cluster. I tried to JW93-19H423-AC next time, but there was no change.
There are 2 errors in DTC.
- U2300-55 : Central configuration
- U2100-00 : J_14229_DTC_U2100
Did I miss something? Please help me. It's very very frustrating because the camera system doesn't work.
Thanks!
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zYx (02-20-2021)
#73
I've successfully reflashed an HY32-14F026-AL before, so the hardware should be OK. I use the method documented in post 19 using JW93-19H423-AC (I actually refer to that post each time to follow the steps), and it looks like you have used the same method here.
Comparing your success screenshot against my notes:
- HW PN FW93-14015-AD is the same
- ECU SW PN JJ32-A4F017-AD is the same (PID F188)
- Data Cal PN JW93-14F022-AC is the same (PID F124)
- Signal Cal PN JW93-14F016-AA is the same (PID F108)
So the software reflash looks to have been successfull.
Before you diagnose further, disconnect the vehicle battery for a minute to check it still behaves the same way.
U2300-55 is a generic code for any module that indicates the software configure loaded onto it does not match what it expects based on the CCF. I would look there. I will send you a PM with my email address in it; please can you zip up your entire C:\Program Files\JLR\IDS\Sessions\{VIN} folder and send it to me so I can do a bit-level comparison with my reference version? Hopefully there is a simple configuration difference, although I'm unsure what it would be as your car already had 360 cams from the factory.
When you say it didn't work after reflashing, I'm guessing there is no 'Camera system unavailable' message on the instrument cluster and the button on the touch screen and the hard button below it simply do nothing when pressed? When the car is put into reverse gear does anything change? Do the parking sensors will function? (They should.)
Comparing your success screenshot against my notes:
- HW PN FW93-14015-AD is the same
- ECU SW PN JJ32-A4F017-AD is the same (PID F188)
- Data Cal PN JW93-14F022-AC is the same (PID F124)
- Signal Cal PN JW93-14F016-AA is the same (PID F108)
So the software reflash looks to have been successfull.
Before you diagnose further, disconnect the vehicle battery for a minute to check it still behaves the same way.
U2300-55 is a generic code for any module that indicates the software configure loaded onto it does not match what it expects based on the CCF. I would look there. I will send you a PM with my email address in it; please can you zip up your entire C:\Program Files\JLR\IDS\Sessions\{VIN} folder and send it to me so I can do a bit-level comparison with my reference version? Hopefully there is a simple configuration difference, although I'm unsure what it would be as your car already had 360 cams from the factory.
When you say it didn't work after reflashing, I'm guessing there is no 'Camera system unavailable' message on the instrument cluster and the button on the touch screen and the hard button below it simply do nothing when pressed? When the car is put into reverse gear does anything change? Do the parking sensors will function? (They should.)
Last edited by xdave; 02-20-2021 at 02:38 PM. Reason: Edited to correct AL not AM.
#74
Hi xdave, and apologies for jumping onto the XJ forum.
I am in the middle of trying to achieve the same thing as you and Cambo but in my F-type (MY2018 with Incontrol touch Pro) and then I came across your post. Excellent write up, but I am totally confused as to what equipment/software i need in order to change the coding parameters. I have never attempted anything like this before but am quite computer literate.
I am at the stage where I have swapped the screens over and I am getting exactly the same image as Cambo did when he tested his new 10.2" screen. Could you tell me what I need, to be able to do the coding myself. Or better still do you know of anyone that might be able to do it? Im based in Leicestershire.
Many thanks
I am in the middle of trying to achieve the same thing as you and Cambo but in my F-type (MY2018 with Incontrol touch Pro) and then I came across your post. Excellent write up, but I am totally confused as to what equipment/software i need in order to change the coding parameters. I have never attempted anything like this before but am quite computer literate.
I am at the stage where I have swapped the screens over and I am getting exactly the same image as Cambo did when he tested his new 10.2" screen. Could you tell me what I need, to be able to do the coding myself. Or better still do you know of anyone that might be able to do it? Im based in Leicestershire.
Many thanks
#75
Hi xdave, and apologies for jumping onto the XJ forum.
I am in the middle of trying to achieve the same thing as you and Cambo but in my F-type (MY2018 with Incontrol touch Pro) and then I came across your post. Excellent write up, but I am totally confused as to what equipment/software i need in order to change the coding parameters. I have never attempted anything like this before but am quite computer literate.
I am at the stage where I have swapped the screens over and I am getting exactly the same image as Cambo did when he tested his new 10.2" screen. Could you tell me what I need, to be able to do the coding myself. Or better still do you know of anyone that might be able to do it? Im based in Leicestershire.
Many thanks
I am in the middle of trying to achieve the same thing as you and Cambo but in my F-type (MY2018 with Incontrol touch Pro) and then I came across your post. Excellent write up, but I am totally confused as to what equipment/software i need in order to change the coding parameters. I have never attempted anything like this before but am quite computer literate.
I am at the stage where I have swapped the screens over and I am getting exactly the same image as Cambo did when he tested his new 10.2" screen. Could you tell me what I need, to be able to do the coding myself. Or better still do you know of anyone that might be able to do it? Im based in Leicestershire.
Many thanks
- SDD - it's free to download but paid to be used.
- 40A+/14V battery charger/maintainer/supply.
- Communication interface cable that works with your car.
#76
IPMB - camera module - addendum
It is now confirmed that as well as the official JJ32-14F026-AC (C2D55068) module, you can re-flash HY32-14F026-AH and likely other A# revisions of that part to work with the 10.2" HMI. I've attached a photo here for reference.
As more people complete this upgrade, if further modules are found to be compatible with the flashing process described in this thread please can you share the part numbers.
I'm particularly interested in compatibility for the non-360 camera version as so far I've only done or seen this done with the 360 cars.
It is now confirmed that as well as the official JJ32-14F026-AC (C2D55068) module, you can re-flash HY32-14F026-AH and likely other A# revisions of that part to work with the 10.2" HMI. I've attached a photo here for reference.
As more people complete this upgrade, if further modules are found to be compatible with the flashing process described in this thread please can you share the part numbers.
I'm particularly interested in compatibility for the non-360 camera version as so far I've only done or seen this done with the 360 cars.
Here's my module
Last edited by zYx; 03-07-2021 at 06:53 AM.
#77
You need the following:
- SDD - it's free to download but paid to be used.
- 40A+/14V battery charger/maintainer/supply.
- Communication interface cable that works with your car.
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#78
I think you can change the maps by just installing the different region to your USB key, and then into the car, via the https://jaguar.here.com downloader. Exactly the same process you would follow to update the installed region maps.
I've had a look at my account and I can see all the other regions and the instructions appear to be the same for each. I can't test it without buying the maps though as I only have a European subscription.
I've had a look at my account and I can see all the other regions and the instructions appear to be the same for each. I can't test it without buying the maps though as I only have a European subscription.
I asked he dealer and they said that even they can't change the maps.
Navi hdd has to be removed and new maps put in the bench t independent specialized company.
I am also struggling with FM frequency gap issue, as US version has only odd frequencies and I can't find proper ccf section to change this.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thomas
#79
The dealers would say that. They don't know how to do much other than change the oil.
I can tell you that 100% it can be done. It involves a CCF edit, then a map update, then another CCF edit. The even frequency issue is likely a CCF edit too.
EDIT:
But to be honest I wouldn't want this thread to be hijacked by this so it might be a good idea to start a new topic. There may be people that can help.
I can tell you that 100% it can be done. It involves a CCF edit, then a map update, then another CCF edit. The even frequency issue is likely a CCF edit too.
EDIT:
But to be honest I wouldn't want this thread to be hijacked by this so it might be a good idea to start a new topic. There may be people that can help.
#80
@xdave , thanks to your great help, I was able to get this job done successfully. And @Cambo helped replace UIP for use CarPlay, is also very grateful. It's been 3 years since I bought the XJL. Display / CarPlay work has been the most satisfying.
1. PAM
My PAM was GX63-15C859-DL. I reprogrammed it, but it failed and it made to be brick. My choice is "GX63-15C859-DM". I have purchased 2 "-DM". I tried to reprogram one of them, but it also turned a brick. If you're not confident, just buy "-DM" and just replace it(do not reprogramming). There is no problem at all to use.
2. IPMB
Old IPMB was "FW93-14F026-AJ". If you can not change the camera mode without replacing the IPMB. I bought "HY32-14F026-AM" on eBay and replaced it. Even after reprogramming, my car didn't recognize this module. Unlike PAM, no problem occurred during the reprogramming process. I bought "JJ32-14F026-AD", again and changed the calibration software to "-BD". It is perfect!
3. CarPlay
My Jag had LOW_LINE UIP. If you force the "Smart Phone Pack" to be activated, only Android Auto will be available and causes many problems. I replaced it to HIGH_LINE UIP, and connected it used HSD. CarPlay works perfectly, now!!
Thank you everyone!
1. PAM
My PAM was GX63-15C859-DL. I reprogrammed it, but it failed and it made to be brick. My choice is "GX63-15C859-DM". I have purchased 2 "-DM". I tried to reprogram one of them, but it also turned a brick. If you're not confident, just buy "-DM" and just replace it(do not reprogramming). There is no problem at all to use.
2. IPMB
Old IPMB was "FW93-14F026-AJ". If you can not change the camera mode without replacing the IPMB. I bought "HY32-14F026-AM" on eBay and replaced it. Even after reprogramming, my car didn't recognize this module. Unlike PAM, no problem occurred during the reprogramming process. I bought "JJ32-14F026-AD", again and changed the calibration software to "-BD". It is perfect!
3. CarPlay
My Jag had LOW_LINE UIP. If you force the "Smart Phone Pack" to be activated, only Android Auto will be available and causes many problems. I replaced it to HIGH_LINE UIP, and connected it used HSD. CarPlay works perfectly, now!!
Thank you everyone!
Last edited by gloriashield; 03-10-2021 at 12:03 AM.