2016 XJR INSTRUMENT CLUSTER SPEEDO SWAP/replacement
#1
2016 XJR INSTRUMENT CLUSTER SPEEDO SWAP/replacement
Here’s my problem. My car is from Canada and it can’t be switched from KL/H to MPH. CRAZY. that’s according the JAGUAR not just the dealership. So I bought a replacement from the USA. Anyone know how to swap these out the easiest and will this need to be programmed by Jaguar ? I can’t find a video anywhere. Thanks joe
#2
Oh dear....
You've gone about this the totally wrong way.
It's a digital instrument cluster, there is no MPH or KMH version. It's just a software setting and it will display whatever you want.
Swapping the instrument cluster requires programming, and even IF you manage to program a 2nd hand instrument cluster, it will receive the as-built data of the car, so you have KMH again, and an incorrect odometer.
You've gone about this the totally wrong way.
It's a digital instrument cluster, there is no MPH or KMH version. It's just a software setting and it will display whatever you want.
Swapping the instrument cluster requires programming, and even IF you manage to program a 2nd hand instrument cluster, it will receive the as-built data of the car, so you have KMH again, and an incorrect odometer.
#3
Dude that’s what I thought. It’s no where on the car. So then I took it to a JLR dealership and they said they could figure out how to do it with their tools. So they submitted an inquiry into JLR tech headquarters and they said it can be changed. That the clusters are specific to different countries. They must be interchanged. I know it sounds so dumb something this simple can’t be changed at the press of a button.
believe me iv spent 3 weeks on this. Can’t be done man. Unreal I’m telling you. Never seen anything like this !!!
believe me iv spent 3 weeks on this. Can’t be done man. Unreal I’m telling you. Never seen anything like this !!!
#4
There are settings in the Car Configuration File (CCF) for what the default units are KMH, MPH or even dual-scale with both units. The range of the dial can also be changed, like XJR's have 300kmh, normal models have 260kmh, etc...
The dealers are locked out from changing these settings, however people working outside the dealer networks are not bound by the rules and can change these settings.
It could also be that the AutoLogic aftermarket tool could change these settings too, if you find someone who has it.
Or even those guys at GAP in Canada who make the IID tool could probably do something for you.
Here in Australia we are sometimes having to change the settings for cars personally imported from the UK. This year alone i've had to do this on two Range Rovers which have the "same" digital instrument cluster as the XJ.
The dealers are locked out from changing these settings, however people working outside the dealer networks are not bound by the rules and can change these settings.
It could also be that the AutoLogic aftermarket tool could change these settings too, if you find someone who has it.
Or even those guys at GAP in Canada who make the IID tool could probably do something for you.
Here in Australia we are sometimes having to change the settings for cars personally imported from the UK. This year alone i've had to do this on two Range Rovers which have the "same" digital instrument cluster as the XJ.
#5
Here’s my problem. My car is from Canada and it can’t be switched from KL/H to MPH. CRAZY. that’s according the JAGUAR not just the dealership. So I bought a replacement from the USA. Anyone know how to swap these out the easiest and will this need to be programmed by Jaguar ? I can’t find a video anywhere. Thanks joe
Only in Canada lol
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#6
I confirm, the gauges can be switched between metric-imperial without any problems by a proper CCF settings, also a radio band frequency step can be changed too. The clusters themselves are identical for all regions, the software in the cluster is the same for all regions.
Swapping to a used one is a pain:
-You'll need some special (and in most countries illegal) tools to change odo readings
-You'll have a WRONG VIN number in cluster's service menu (illegal in some countries) and it can't be changes without disassembly of the cluster and soldering of a few chips.
Swapping to a used one is a pain:
-You'll need some special (and in most countries illegal) tools to change odo readings
-You'll have a WRONG VIN number in cluster's service menu (illegal in some countries) and it can't be changes without disassembly of the cluster and soldering of a few chips.
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#7
In the CCF, you are looking to change the Instrument pack 5 byte, Main and minor scale units bits. The main scale can be Mph or Km/h, and the Minor can be the other one or none displayed at all. Any independent with SDD and a secure mode keygen (e.g. vehcom) will be able to do this for you.
Really Jaguar should have made this a setting on the instrument cluster menu. Maybe it is omitted for some regulatory reason?
Really Jaguar should have made this a setting on the instrument cluster menu. Maybe it is omitted for some regulatory reason?
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#9
From my experience. When I took delivery on my XJ in October of 2012 the display had a bad pixel. Jaguar required that the dealer supply the Vin. mileage, and the country/region that the XJ was manufactured for in order to replace the display. From that I surmised that there are regional differences that are hard coded to the display. IMHO .
#10
So I am in oklahoma. And the dealership says it is 4 hours of programming to do the change. I am dying to know how I can change these settings and if there is anyone in Oklahoma or the surrounding states that can do this. I would be eternally grateful if someone “knew a guy.”
I will start the search. I knew there had to be a way to change this. It’s so simple. The digital speed indicator And the mileage indicators is all I’m asking for. Seems like an act of god at this point. Thanks for all your input gentlemen !! The search begins !!
joe
I will start the search. I knew there had to be a way to change this. It’s so simple. The digital speed indicator And the mileage indicators is all I’m asking for. Seems like an act of god at this point. Thanks for all your input gentlemen !! The search begins !!
joe
#11
Oh dear....
You've gone about this the totally wrong way.
It's a digital instrument cluster, there is no MPH or KMH version. It's just a software setting and it will display whatever you want.
Swapping the instrument cluster requires programming, and even IF you manage to program a 2nd hand instrument cluster, it will receive the as-built data of the car, so you have KMH again, and an incorrect odometer.
You've gone about this the totally wrong way.
It's a digital instrument cluster, there is no MPH or KMH version. It's just a software setting and it will display whatever you want.
Swapping the instrument cluster requires programming, and even IF you manage to program a 2nd hand instrument cluster, it will receive the as-built data of the car, so you have KMH again, and an incorrect odometer.
#12
Sorry for the untimely reply. I am in the exact same situation: Canadian sourced 2015 XJ 3.0 AWD. All shows mph imperial but the Analogue Speedometer which shows solely KMH. I see mixed messages in this thread. I took it to Jaguar and they said they could not reprogram it that the car was "42247 Canadian spec vehicle vehicle i made for use in Canada and cannot set the speedometer to MPH." So I'm wondering if I need to buy a US model cluster and program and switch it or do I need to find someone or a tool to reprogram my car. If I need a non-dealer programmer has anyone found anyone or any tool that works to accomplish this?
#13
FWIW, it's not that big a deal to become accustomed to klicks. 100 equals 60 mph, etc. I don't know where you drive, but you would only need to know 3 numbers in my area, 25 mph, 40 mph and 70 mph. It's pretty easy to get acclimated to think in these numbers. You'd need to do some arithmetic to calculate MPG, but I'll bet by the time you find somebody to modify your car for a reasonable price, you'll already be "calibrated" in your head. I belong to a vintage car group, and because of the difference between old tire sizes and current manufacturing, our speedos and odos have significant errors. Very quickly one learns their own "fudge factor". Even in a rally, where speed and distance are critical, it's easy.
Heck, if some guys can learn to drive on either side of the road, Shirley you can figure your MPH and miles!
Heck, if some guys can learn to drive on either side of the road, Shirley you can figure your MPH and miles!
#14
FWIW, it's not that big a deal to become accustomed to klicks. 100 equals 60 mph, etc. I don't know where you drive, but you would only need to know 3 numbers in my area, 25 mph, 40 mph and 70 mph. It's pretty easy to get acclimated to think in these numbers. You'd need to do some arithmetic to calculate MPG, but I'll bet by the time you find somebody to modify your car for a reasonable price, you'll already be "calibrated" in your head. I belong to a vintage car group, and because of the difference between old tire sizes and current manufacturing, our speedos and odos have significant errors. Very quickly one learns their own "fudge factor". Even in a rally, where speed and distance are critical, it's easy.
Heck, if some guys can learn to drive on either side of the road, Shirley you can figure your MPH and miles!
Heck, if some guys can learn to drive on either side of the road, Shirley you can figure your MPH and miles!
No conversion necessary my cluster displays MPH in digital and all my other units are imperial so fuel economy, range, etc are all Imperial not metric. That being said I want the analogue to be MPH. I know it can be switched by someone because Land Rover has a similar virtual cluster that is switched via dash menu. It makes little or no sense that it would be hard coded by regions as the cluster should accept the R version which have higher speeds.
#15
These are the people that imported my vehicle from Canada to the USA.
I don't know any details as I bought it from a US dealership who had already done all the leg work.
https://allianceimports.com/
I don't know any details as I bought it from a US dealership who had already done all the leg work.
https://allianceimports.com/
#16
This is a fairly old post but seems to still be troubling people. I would just like to confirm 100% that i was able to switch my Canadian spec MY2017 X351 from KPH to MPH. Its literally one CCF setting that needs to be changed in SDD. For the person that was quoted 4 hours of programming time by the dealer, I feel bad if you actually paid that.
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Details and regulations of the import process are out there on the internet. Do some googling and pay attention to the NHTSB and EPA results and you'll get your answer. You can also just contact either directly and they'll set you straight. I went through this process several years ago when I was looking at starting an import brokerage to bring in diesel 80 series Land Cruisers from Russia, but all my info is in regards to that.
#20
Yeah, it's really not all that complex. If you're actually considering importing the right Jag, you can find a broker for a more turnkey experience (more costly) or try to vet the process and proceed accordingly. It's just time and material. I can speak from experience at least, US Customs and Border Patrol are annoying at times, but if you find the right person they can help you confirm process. Just come prepared with your research, it's not too nebulous.
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