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Old 11-28-2023 | 12:13 AM
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Greetings. I have a 2013 XJ Portfolio without massage seats. I’ve purchased two front seats from a junked 2014 XJ with massage seats. The seats have been installed in my vehicle with the seat modules from the donor vehicle. All of the manual seat controls work as expected i.e. seat movements forward and back, side bolsters, memory function, headrest, heat and cool etc.

I am having trouble getting my vehicle to recognize the newly installed massage seats. I cannot get the massage option to be displayed on the nav screen. I’ve successfully modified the CCF file parameter “front seat massage” to fitted. No massage option. I suspect that I have to download the software files for the seat modules from the donor vehicle. I have the software files for the driver and passenger seat. However, I cannot get my vehicle to accept the .vbf files to configure the seat modules. I’ve tried renaming the new software files with same file names as the original files. No success. This results in a file error “Error code A1E = request out of range error”. See picture below. I’ve tried modifying the contents of the vbf files. That resulted in a checksum error during the download. SDD seems to detect any files that are not associated with originally fitted modules. Does anyone know of any other creative methods to download software files for modules that aren’t originally fitted to a vehicle? Any other ideas on getting that massage option to display on the nav screen? Thanks.

 

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Old 11-28-2023 | 02:40 AM
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This is an incredible upgrade attempt, but I have no clue how to help.
 
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Old 12-29-2023 | 07:21 PM
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I have tried several attempts and multiple methods to get the vehicle to accept the software for the newly installed seat modules. In all attempts, I get the “request out of range error”. I think that this is due to the hardware and software numbers being newer than the vehicle. See seat module pictures below. I suspect that going back in hardware/software would work, but going forward to newer hardware/software prompts the download error. This is only a theory. It’s probably possible to go forward with newer hardware with some software file manipulation, but I haven’t figured it out.

Donor vehicle driver seat module, 2014 XJ.

Originally fitted driver seat module, 2013 XJ.


From looking at the seat module hardware part numbers from 2013 XJ’s with massage seats, they are a match to my original XJ seat modules without massage seats. This prompts me to believe that my problem is the CCF file parameters and not particularly the seat module software. I need to identify the correct CCF file parameters to enable the massage options on my touch screen.

Does anyone have a CCF file for a 2013 XJ with massage seats? I’d like to copy those CCF settings to see if I can enable the massage seat options.
 

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Old 12-30-2023 | 02:12 AM
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Wouldn't it be easier finding some uses seats with that feature ..then programming it?
 
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Old 01-07-2024 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Meanmugga
Wouldn't it be easier finding some uses seats with that feature ..then programming it?
You didn't read the initial post? He did get used seats with the massage feature. However, the correct software configuration/files have to be in his vehicle computer, to be able to use the feature. If it was an option for that car, you can add nearly any hardware you want to your vehicle, but the software has to be configured for it to work/access the function.
 
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Old 01-07-2024 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sgtm7
You didn't read the initial post? He did get used seats with the massage feature. However, the correct software configuration/files have to be in his vehicle computer, to be able to use the feature. If it was an option for that car, you can add nearly any hardware you want to your vehicle, but the software has to be configured for it to work/access the function.
Hence why I said programming it afterwards. I hear others editing their ecu to add features... so why not the seats.
 
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Old 01-08-2024 | 09:45 PM
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I’m still working to figure this out. From my previous post above, I was thinking that maybe there were additional CCF modifications that I needed to make. I’m not so sure if that is the case anymore.

I now think that it is the version touchscreen that I have. I believe that it is not capable of showing the massage seat option. I’ve seen certain members on the forum update from the slower 2010/2011 touchscreens to the faster 2012/2013 models. Once updated, they lost certain features on their touchscreens that they previously had. One of them being the massage option. The option is no longer displayed. There’s an entire thread on this. https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...isplay-162946/

As such, I purchased 2 used touchscreens, models CW93-10E889-CB (2012) and DW93-10E889-AD (2013). I think one of these will work. This is just a theory, however it’s worth a try. The thread does in fact confirm that certain options will NOT be displayed on the touchscreen despite the vehicle’s CCF configuration.

The screens should be here later this week. I’ll provide an update whether success or failure. If this does work, this would be a relatively simple and easy upgrade for those without massage seats.
 

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Old 01-17-2024 | 04:49 PM
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Do any of the XJ's have massaging on the seat bottoms, or just the seat backs?
 
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