Jaguar Timing Chain Class action
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Interesting.
No use to me of course as I'm in Oz and I have an AJ126 V6.
I see you have posted this in the XF and XJ forums, but not as far as I can tell in the XK and F-Type forums.
The linked page also talks about only 2012 to 2014 models, and only the 5.0 V8 and not the 3.0 V6 (like my car) although the V6 uses the exact same timing gear.
I can't recall off the top of my head any reports of the V6 having the same problems with the timing chains, guides and tensioners but I suspect the early AJ126's (pre-2015) used the same suspect parts. Maybe it's just that few or no early V6s have done enough miles yet for this to show up.
No use to me of course as I'm in Oz and I have an AJ126 V6.
I see you have posted this in the XF and XJ forums, but not as far as I can tell in the XK and F-Type forums.
The linked page also talks about only 2012 to 2014 models, and only the 5.0 V8 and not the 3.0 V6 (like my car) although the V6 uses the exact same timing gear.
I can't recall off the top of my head any reports of the V6 having the same problems with the timing chains, guides and tensioners but I suspect the early AJ126's (pre-2015) used the same suspect parts. Maybe it's just that few or no early V6s have done enough miles yet for this to show up.
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I’m pretty sure the guides and tensioners were updated in 2013 before the V6s came out (2014).
I presume this litigation is for people who’s engines failed, not for people who changed the guides/tensioners out preventatively. I already updated mine at my own expense.
Best of luck.
EDIT: Just read the class action summary. They definitely have the incorrect range of vehicles included. It should at least include model years 2010 & 2011. I’m also pretty sure it should not include MY2014. I have never heard of an affected 2014 vehicle and the Landrover TSB specifically covers 2010-2012 vehicles suggesting the part was updated in 2013.
I presume this litigation is for people who’s engines failed, not for people who changed the guides/tensioners out preventatively. I already updated mine at my own expense.
Best of luck.
EDIT: Just read the class action summary. They definitely have the incorrect range of vehicles included. It should at least include model years 2010 & 2011. I’m also pretty sure it should not include MY2014. I have never heard of an affected 2014 vehicle and the Landrover TSB specifically covers 2010-2012 vehicles suggesting the part was updated in 2013.
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Anecdotally, my local Indy, who did a lot of chain fixes, told me that oil change interval plays into this problem - longer you go between oil changes, more likely you are going to have a chain issue on these engines.
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My understanding was the design changed sometime during 2013 and that the old style was gone by 2014. Your 2013 model is consistent with this thinking. If anyone has a 2014 that has the old style parts, I’d love to see it posted here.
Oil change frequency may help compensate for poor tensioner/ guide design, but it will not stop the bending of the aluminum rail from the steel tensioner pin. You need the new part: there is no other way.
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I have suspected the oil change interval because Bigg Will has well over 100K miles on his early model XFR with no tensioner problems at all. He is very consistent with oil change intervals of 4K using Walmart Synthetic oil. Thought that was over kill but I think he's on the right track now!
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In general, I change my oil between 3k/5k miles or every 6 months. For one, that's what my extended warranty requires so I document that.
In addition, I recently did a total cost of ownership analysis of my purchase. Inclusive of taxes, comparing like to like, features that were standard in 2012 (rear trays, 1200W system for supercharged, etc) to an "off the shelf" 2016 or comparable vehicle. The 2012 is still more affordable to own by at least 10k, accounting for cash flow @ a 12% interest rate (I am not a corporation). I wish the gap was bigger, but we're talking about buying an old luxury vehicle with common aging parts.
Add in the savings from doing a majority of the work myself minus items covered by my warranty and I anticipate to prepare to sink at least 20% of my purchase price (tensioners included in preventative maintenance) from when I bought it (2018) forecasted to 2024 unless an act of God occurs. I knew this going into the purchase so my expectations are in check with any surprises. I suppose my sample size is just me, but it seems like most folks here are doing preventative maintenance and we are discussing symptoms and resolutions (as best can be conveyed in text/video clips versus in person) to save us all some coin, time, and pain hopefully.
In addition, I recently did a total cost of ownership analysis of my purchase. Inclusive of taxes, comparing like to like, features that were standard in 2012 (rear trays, 1200W system for supercharged, etc) to an "off the shelf" 2016 or comparable vehicle. The 2012 is still more affordable to own by at least 10k, accounting for cash flow @ a 12% interest rate (I am not a corporation). I wish the gap was bigger, but we're talking about buying an old luxury vehicle with common aging parts.
Add in the savings from doing a majority of the work myself minus items covered by my warranty and I anticipate to prepare to sink at least 20% of my purchase price (tensioners included in preventative maintenance) from when I bought it (2018) forecasted to 2024 unless an act of God occurs. I knew this going into the purchase so my expectations are in check with any surprises. I suppose my sample size is just me, but it seems like most folks here are doing preventative maintenance and we are discussing symptoms and resolutions (as best can be conveyed in text/video clips versus in person) to save us all some coin, time, and pain hopefully.
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