MP3/USB issues XJ2012
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MP3/USB issues XJ2012
So I have an XJL 2012, and i am constantly having issues with mp3 files i burn to a flash drive.
Its a hit or mix with some albums I download, either they work or I get the no file/folder msg and then the whole system freezes. My question is has anyone experienced the same issue and found a solution or does anyone know which mp3s I should be avoiding?
I have tried changing usbs many times. Also have checked the same usb/mp3 files on another non jaguar car and it works fine.
Please help.
Its a hit or mix with some albums I download, either they work or I get the no file/folder msg and then the whole system freezes. My question is has anyone experienced the same issue and found a solution or does anyone know which mp3s I should be avoiding?
I have tried changing usbs many times. Also have checked the same usb/mp3 files on another non jaguar car and it works fine.
Please help.
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twister, I just ran into this yesterday. I have 2 USB sticks in my car and one day they were working in the car (so I know the sticks were good) and the next day they don't. Part of me is wondering if the temperature that gets inside the car may do something to the sticks. But, it is sounding like you are ruling that one out with your tests and I am going to be testing my sticks here shortly just to eliminate my potential problems.
I will let you know what I find.
I will let you know what I find.
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Ok, I have been playing a little bit. I know the folder that is giving me issues (atleast one of them). I can put in a USB stick and it will start playing. I can then change to a different folder that I know works. No issues. When I go to the folder that I am having issues with, it will give me the "File corrupt......" message. Once I get that message, I cannot access any file and play it (even the ones that I just accessed and know work) until I remove the USB from the car.
With this being said, I am playing some the artist has added a special character to their name/album title and I am wondering if this might be part of the issue. I have checked on my computer and all the files are not protected. So, it isn't an issue of playing protected music (which if the music is protected, it can cause what you are seeing). I am getting ready to try things again after removing the folder from the USB and reloading it just to make sure that it wasn't a copy issue. If I am still having issues, then I am going to try removing the special character and reload it onto the USB stick once again. So, keep looking back.
Just for reference, I have my music stored on the USB such that the artists name is the main folder and then the album name is the sub-folder. I then have all the music under the subfolder related to that album. I have done this to my whole music collection. I am also using a 16GB stick. I am finding that while the radio will accept the larger sticks, there is a long load time with a stick that size and I would rather have the music come on a little quicker than what it does with the 32GB stick. I am figuring I am going to end up with four 16GB sticks just so I can have all my music with me. But then, having over 1,000 albums, you kinda need that much space. Granted, I wonder what it would take to enlarge the hard drive on the radio to allow for more data storage inside the radio to prevent the need for anything external. Installing the hard drive I don't think will be the problem. The issue I see is transferring the jaguar programming over. But then, if I am going that far, part of me would be wondering just what it would take to re-program the whole radio to something a bit more friendly.
With this being said, I am playing some the artist has added a special character to their name/album title and I am wondering if this might be part of the issue. I have checked on my computer and all the files are not protected. So, it isn't an issue of playing protected music (which if the music is protected, it can cause what you are seeing). I am getting ready to try things again after removing the folder from the USB and reloading it just to make sure that it wasn't a copy issue. If I am still having issues, then I am going to try removing the special character and reload it onto the USB stick once again. So, keep looking back.
Just for reference, I have my music stored on the USB such that the artists name is the main folder and then the album name is the sub-folder. I then have all the music under the subfolder related to that album. I have done this to my whole music collection. I am also using a 16GB stick. I am finding that while the radio will accept the larger sticks, there is a long load time with a stick that size and I would rather have the music come on a little quicker than what it does with the 32GB stick. I am figuring I am going to end up with four 16GB sticks just so I can have all my music with me. But then, having over 1,000 albums, you kinda need that much space. Granted, I wonder what it would take to enlarge the hard drive on the radio to allow for more data storage inside the radio to prevent the need for anything external. Installing the hard drive I don't think will be the problem. The issue I see is transferring the jaguar programming over. But then, if I am going that far, part of me would be wondering just what it would take to re-program the whole radio to something a bit more friendly.
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Well, more playing and not a lot of luck. I was initially thinking that it might have something to do with special characters, but through trial and error it seems that even if the artists name or album has a special character in it (atleast the !), this does not seem to affect things. This lead me back to a problem with the files themselves. I deleted the album and placed it back on the USB stick, but this resulted in the same condition. The only difference I can spot between a working album and a non-working album is the non-working album has a name in the "copyright" block of the album properties/attributes. But in all cases, the "protected" block of the attributes is marked as "NO". So, it should play. Just to add some confusion to everything, the name in the copyright block has a special character (?) in it. So, that may be adding to some of the confusion. Guess I need to play some more with the albums I have on the stick and see what other ones have issues and see what the commonalities are between the various albums. Unfortunately, a simple "just remove the name from the copyright block" is not possible (already tried it). I do know of a way around it, so, may need to see if that will fix things.
So, for the moment, this one album is coming off the stick and I will see what others may give me grief.
Hopefully this will give people some idea of what isn't causing their issues.
So, for the moment, this one album is coming off the stick and I will see what others may give me grief.
Hopefully this will give people some idea of what isn't causing their issues.
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Yea this is exactly what is happening to me one folder plays the other does not, i have tried copying it again and again, formatting the sticks, changing them, re downloading them and so on, i know its the problem with the mp3s i just want to figure out what so i can avoid downloading these sort of mp3s.
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Angus, would you (or anyone else) know the language that the radio is programmed in? Thinking this might make for an interesting "winter project". I am curious how much "change" I can make to a system like that and still have it function. Possibly even correcting some of the things that I think are wrong/missing.
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I haven't got a clue about the programming language, but IMHO there must be a lot of clunky code lurking around if the performance is anything to go by.
Just seen a job advert and an article which seem to point towards Linux.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...-the-dashboard
Just seen a job advert and an article which seem to point towards Linux.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...-the-dashboard
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For those having MP3 music issues, looking for some information as I think I might be on to something. Find an song/album that you are having issues with (the more the better). Using a MP3 tag editor, look to see what type of tag that the song(s) have. It should say something to the effect of "ID3v1", "ID2v2.3", or "ID3v2.3(ID3v1)". If you find that you have only "ID3v2.3" listed, what is the bitrate of your music?
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Ok, I have just spent two days looking into this issue and I have to say it is indeed quite a challange to resolve! I think I have finally cracked it though, here are my findings....
In my new music folder, I had 30 tracks. 3 played ok, the rest all failed with the error.
First test (Mp3 tags)
I downloaded a utility that quickly wiped ALL tag info from the Mp3 tracks... so I deleted the info from all 30 tracks. Afterwards, the 3 tracks still played ok (with no tag info) and the other 27 still failed. Extensive proof that the issue is NOTHING to do with Tag info associated to the MP3
2nd Test (MP3 bitrate)
I won't bore you with the many tests I did but converting the MP3s to different bitrates make any difference.
Final test & solution (MP3 constant bitrate)
Finally I stumbled upon the fact that the failing MP3's seem to be "varible bitrates". Therefore I then converted all my MP3's to "constant bit rates" and this seemed to have worked for them all.
To do it yourself...
1) Download "LameXP" and install (MP3 freeware from the trusted sourceforge site)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lamexp/
2) Once installed click on the "Compression" tab and ensure the following is ticked...
A) MP3
B) Constant Bitrate (CBR)
C) change the quality/bitrate to "192 Kbps" (others rates may work but this defo works)
3) Click the "output" tab and set your output directory
4) Click the "source files" tab and "add files" (of your none working MP3's)
5) finally click "encode now"
you should now have recoded MP3's in your output directory that work with your beloved Shaguar!
In my new music folder, I had 30 tracks. 3 played ok, the rest all failed with the error.
First test (Mp3 tags)
I downloaded a utility that quickly wiped ALL tag info from the Mp3 tracks... so I deleted the info from all 30 tracks. Afterwards, the 3 tracks still played ok (with no tag info) and the other 27 still failed. Extensive proof that the issue is NOTHING to do with Tag info associated to the MP3
2nd Test (MP3 bitrate)
I won't bore you with the many tests I did but converting the MP3s to different bitrates make any difference.
Final test & solution (MP3 constant bitrate)
Finally I stumbled upon the fact that the failing MP3's seem to be "varible bitrates". Therefore I then converted all my MP3's to "constant bit rates" and this seemed to have worked for them all.
To do it yourself...
1) Download "LameXP" and install (MP3 freeware from the trusted sourceforge site)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lamexp/
2) Once installed click on the "Compression" tab and ensure the following is ticked...
A) MP3
B) Constant Bitrate (CBR)
C) change the quality/bitrate to "192 Kbps" (others rates may work but this defo works)
3) Click the "output" tab and set your output directory
4) Click the "source files" tab and "add files" (of your none working MP3's)
5) finally click "encode now"
you should now have recoded MP3's in your output directory that work with your beloved Shaguar!