Oil Change questions
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Hi. I'm a new owner to a 2014 XJL V6 Supercharged. I want to tart fresh with an oil change. I know there is a particular type of Castrol oil but I would like to know.
How often should I get an oil change?
Would you recommend taking it to the dealer, mom&pop, or chain?
About how much was yours? I'm in OH.
Thanks guys and I hope you love your kittie as much as I love mine
How often should I get an oil change?
Would you recommend taking it to the dealer, mom&pop, or chain?
About how much was yours? I'm in OH.
Thanks guys and I hope you love your kittie as much as I love mine
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It’s very important to use a 0w20 that meets JLR’s 5122 spec. The Castrol seems to be dealer only in the US. I bought Motul Specific 5122 which meets spec, from Amazon. Looks like it can be had cheaper at Autohaus AZ right now, $44.
I would never go to a chain. For a start, they wouldn’t use the right oil.
edit : they also have the correct Castrol, $12 per quart.
I would never go to a chain. For a start, they wouldn’t use the right oil.
edit : they also have the correct Castrol, $12 per quart.
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Dee, there are very specific oils needed for the engine. So, make sure you get the correct oil. It is going to cost a little more, but it will save you from a high dollar repair bill.
As for where to get it done. The chain stores will not carry the correct oil, I can pretty much guarantee that. You are probably going to have a hard time even getting them to have the full synthetic 0W20 on hand. Now, a Mom&Pop place, this is where I would do a lot of questions. May even find one that if you supply the oil and filter, they will do the work for you (that is the place that I would trust the most). A lot of smaller shops are not going to know nor take the time to figure out what the car really needs, then there is going to be a delay as they have to get all the parts and whatnot. As for a dealership, you have to watch them too. I know of a few members here that have taken their cars to the dealership to have oil changes and when they questioned the oil stated on the receipt, the dealership looked at them funny when the customer stated that the oil doesn't meet Jaguar specs. The following answer by the dealership was "well, we put that in all the cars".
As for time/mileage between oil changes, from what I am seeing Jaguar is recommending an oil change once a year or every 16K miles. Personally, i can't see me driving a car for 16K miles on the same oil. This is where I think you will find that most people will tell you either every 7,500 miles or every 10K miles. For me, that is a bit more realistic. I am a 7500 mile guy, granted, I have the 5.0L engine and I am not using the specialty Jaguar oil for my car as it is very difficult to find, so, I have backed off on the mileage limitations.
Now, something that you may find of interest is that you may want to consider doing the oil changes yourself. I know what you are thinking, "I don't want to crawl under the car, get all oily, just to save a few dollars on an oil change". What if I told you that you didn't even have to drop to a knee to do an oil change. If you open up the oil cap on the engine, you will see a little silver tube sticking up in there. You get a vacuum pump (as little as $40 on e-bay) and you suck the oil out of the engine and right into a 5 gallon gas can. The oil filter should be right on top of the engine. You spin off a cap, replace the paper filter cartridge that is inside and screw back on. Add in your 7 quarts of oil and tada, done. The big trick with the vacuum pump is you want the oil warm (not cold, not hot). So, you drive the car to get it up to temp, you park it on level ground, open the hood, grab your pump and gas can, a few rags (10 ish minutes of time), and now the oil is at about the temp needed to come out of the engine with ease. Takes about 5 minutes to suck the oil out. In that time, you can replace the oil filter. Once the pump starts sucking air, you can set that off to the side and use a funnel to put oil into the car. The XJ is one of the easiest cars to do an oil change on I have seen. Oh, also, you can buy the jaguar OEM filters on e-bay for around $85 for 6 filters. If you go to your local dealership, they are probably going to want $80ish for just 1 filter. Shopping online will save you a lot on the cost of OEM parts.
On a side note, what part of Ohio are you in? I travel to Toledo to see family every year. So, if you see a kitty running around those parts with Maryland tags, it is probably me.
As for where to get it done. The chain stores will not carry the correct oil, I can pretty much guarantee that. You are probably going to have a hard time even getting them to have the full synthetic 0W20 on hand. Now, a Mom&Pop place, this is where I would do a lot of questions. May even find one that if you supply the oil and filter, they will do the work for you (that is the place that I would trust the most). A lot of smaller shops are not going to know nor take the time to figure out what the car really needs, then there is going to be a delay as they have to get all the parts and whatnot. As for a dealership, you have to watch them too. I know of a few members here that have taken their cars to the dealership to have oil changes and when they questioned the oil stated on the receipt, the dealership looked at them funny when the customer stated that the oil doesn't meet Jaguar specs. The following answer by the dealership was "well, we put that in all the cars".
As for time/mileage between oil changes, from what I am seeing Jaguar is recommending an oil change once a year or every 16K miles. Personally, i can't see me driving a car for 16K miles on the same oil. This is where I think you will find that most people will tell you either every 7,500 miles or every 10K miles. For me, that is a bit more realistic. I am a 7500 mile guy, granted, I have the 5.0L engine and I am not using the specialty Jaguar oil for my car as it is very difficult to find, so, I have backed off on the mileage limitations.
Now, something that you may find of interest is that you may want to consider doing the oil changes yourself. I know what you are thinking, "I don't want to crawl under the car, get all oily, just to save a few dollars on an oil change". What if I told you that you didn't even have to drop to a knee to do an oil change. If you open up the oil cap on the engine, you will see a little silver tube sticking up in there. You get a vacuum pump (as little as $40 on e-bay) and you suck the oil out of the engine and right into a 5 gallon gas can. The oil filter should be right on top of the engine. You spin off a cap, replace the paper filter cartridge that is inside and screw back on. Add in your 7 quarts of oil and tada, done. The big trick with the vacuum pump is you want the oil warm (not cold, not hot). So, you drive the car to get it up to temp, you park it on level ground, open the hood, grab your pump and gas can, a few rags (10 ish minutes of time), and now the oil is at about the temp needed to come out of the engine with ease. Takes about 5 minutes to suck the oil out. In that time, you can replace the oil filter. Once the pump starts sucking air, you can set that off to the side and use a funnel to put oil into the car. The XJ is one of the easiest cars to do an oil change on I have seen. Oh, also, you can buy the jaguar OEM filters on e-bay for around $85 for 6 filters. If you go to your local dealership, they are probably going to want $80ish for just 1 filter. Shopping online will save you a lot on the cost of OEM parts.
On a side note, what part of Ohio are you in? I travel to Toledo to see family every year. So, if you see a kitty running around those parts with Maryland tags, it is probably me.
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Here is a source for Jaguar LR spec oil. They sell an oil change kit, which I bought a year ago when doing my own oil change. Go to Amazon and buy a fluid transfer pump. You will need a filter wrench to fit your Jag and a torque wrench to make sure you don't over torque the filter housing. Took me about 30 minutes to do an oil and filter change.
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/jag...hle-lm20410kt3
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/jag...hle-lm20410kt3
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Do any of them actually meet the JLR specification WSS M2C925-A that's identified in the manuals?
Not that I see.
WSS M2C925-B is not WSS M2C925-A.
These are all very good oils, but if you use these, you may just as well use the off-the-shelf Castrol Edge from Wal-mart.
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Mark SF, is there a document somewhere that says the 5122 spec oil is the replacement for the 925A oil and meets all the requirements of the 925A oil? Just curious. The spec oil is based on a multitude of things (component requirements, oil wedge collapse prevention, viscosity breakdown, etc). many oils can meet most of the requirements, but may not meet all of them, therefore, some people see that as an "inferior oil" (ie, potentially causing harm to the engine if used as is stated in the manual). I know the problem with the 925A oils is that Jaguar is the only company that has that spec and therefore, most oil companies will not spend the necessary money to have their oils analyzed to get the accreditation to say that they meet that spec. So, there are probably a lot of oils that could meet the 925A spec, but can't say that on their bottles due to not being properly tested.
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The wording in my 2015 handbook is
For 3.0 V6, use a 0w20 to spec 5122.
For the 5.0, use a 5w20 to spec 925A, unless it's not available, then use a 0w20 to spec 5122.
Given that 925A is unavailable in the US, as far as I know, that means always using 0w20 to spec 5122 for either engine.
The original discussion was about a 2014 V6.
For 3.0 V6, use a 0w20 to spec 5122.
For the 5.0, use a 5w20 to spec 925A, unless it's not available, then use a 0w20 to spec 5122.
Given that 925A is unavailable in the US, as far as I know, that means always using 0w20 to spec 5122 for either engine.
The original discussion was about a 2014 V6.
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The wording in my 2015 handbook is
For 3.0 V6, use a 0w20 to spec 5122.
For the 5.0, use a 5w20 to spec 925A, unless it's not available, then use a 0w20 to spec 5122.
Given that 925A is unavailable in the US, as far as I know, that means always using 0w20 to spec 5122 for either engine.
The original discussion was about a 2014 V6.
For 3.0 V6, use a 0w20 to spec 5122.
For the 5.0, use a 5w20 to spec 925A, unless it's not available, then use a 0w20 to spec 5122.
Given that 925A is unavailable in the US, as far as I know, that means always using 0w20 to spec 5122 for either engine.
The original discussion was about a 2014 V6.
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Has anyone used AMSOIL SAE 0W-20 LS Synthetic European Motor Oil in their XJ / XJL? I'm coming due on my first oil change in my 2017 Jaguar XJL (5.0 Supercharged), which I purchased a few months ago (July 2020), with only 18,500 miles. This is my first Jaguar, and I've always used AMSOIL Synthetic Oil in all my vehicles. Thanks for the replies
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You still have a year or two of warranty left, by my reckoning, and use of anything other than an approved oil with a 5122 rating would void it. I'd even go so far as to say you should get oil changes done at a dealer with the correct Castrol Edge Pro with UV dye in it. If you have an engine problem, they will look for the UV dye in the oil to confirm use of the correct stuff.
Don't you also have another couple of years of free servicing? Original warranty was 5 years / 60K miles with free servicing for the same length of time.
Don't you also have another couple of years of free servicing? Original warranty was 5 years / 60K miles with free servicing for the same length of time.
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You still have a year or two of warranty left, by my reckoning, and use of anything other than an approved oil with a 5122 rating would void it. I'd even go so far as to say you should get oil changes done at a dealer with the correct Castrol Edge Pro with UV dye in it. If you have an engine problem, they will look for the UV dye in the oil to confirm use of the correct stuff.
Don't you also have another couple of years of free servicing? Original warranty was 5 years / 60K miles with free servicing for the same length of time.
Don't you also have another couple of years of free servicing? Original warranty was 5 years / 60K miles with free servicing for the same length of time.
I'm not sure of the "free servicing", as I purchased the vehicle "used" and there was no mention of it [free servicing]. I still have until June 2022 before the factory warranty expires. I did purchase an extended warranty that will expire in 2026. I may have to contact the Jaguar dealer (Chandler, AZ) to find out if, in fact, the "free servicing" is available for my 2017 Jaguar XJL 5.0 (Supercharged).
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The factory warranty includes free sheduled maintenance and is fully transferable. In the folder in the glove box you should have "Passport to Service" with details.
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"Complimentary scheduled maintenance coverage for all new Jaguar models covers factory recommended scheduled maintenance as detailed in the Passport to Service for 5 years or 60,000 miles, whichever occurs first. A service interval indicator will appear to tell you when necessary vehicle maintenance needs to be scheduled. Consult your Passport to Service schedule. In order to receive scheduled vehicle maintenance, you must bring your vehicle to an authorized Jaguar Retailer within 1 month or 1,000 miles of the scheduled maintenance interval. Customers who do not bring their vehicle to a Retailer within the required time for scheduled maintenance may not receive the missed interval service."
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"Complimentary scheduled maintenance coverage for all new Jaguar models covers factory recommended scheduled maintenance as detailed in the Passport to Service for 5 years or 60,000 miles, whichever occurs first. A service interval indicator will appear to tell you when necessary vehicle maintenance needs to be scheduled. Consult your Passport to Service schedule. In order to receive scheduled vehicle maintenance, you must bring your vehicle to an authorized Jaguar Retailer within 1 month or 1,000 miles of the scheduled maintenance interval. Customers who do not bring their vehicle to a Retailer within the required time for scheduled maintenance may not receive the missed interval service."
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