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Old 08-09-2017 | 09:46 PM
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The rear quarter window trim has begun to un-attach at the front, where is meets the door trim. I searched the forum and do net see reference to what might be causing it, or how to remove it, so I can see myself. Has anybody else experienced this? I could put probably get a bead of some sort of trim adhesive behind it, but don't want to go that route if that isn't the way it was should be. Attached is a picture.



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Old 08-10-2017 | 09:25 AM
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Another forum member that thinks we can define their make, model, year through devining. I for one will stop responding to those who ask questions without a signature or the information in the text.
 
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Old 08-10-2017 | 12:16 PM
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Sorry, my bad. I assumed an X351 was an X351. This is a 2012 XJ Supercharged 5.0 SWB. I have the info stored in my profile, and assumed for some reason it would display. Mayby I don't have my account set up correctly. Didn't mean to **** anyone off, just looking for some friendly advice. Thanks!
 

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Old 08-10-2017 | 03:54 PM
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Thanks for the information. I looked at both the "repair manual" that I subscribe to in alldatadiy.com and the part #C2D13550 and there are no indications on how the molding is secured. Sorry

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Old 08-11-2017 | 09:28 AM
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Old 08-11-2017 | 10:26 AM
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Can you post a picture of the other side so we can see what it should look like?
I see some scratches but the trim is flat against the painted edge?
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Old 08-11-2017 | 04:32 PM
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clubairth1, look at the trim. It is not sticking up, it is sticking out. It is trying to go leave out the side of the car, not bubbling up. If you look at the seam between the panels, the one on the left is sticking out about a 1/4" (6mm) when compared to the trim on the right.

As for the fix, not sure about it. This is one of those situations that you may need to pull the whole chrome piece of trim off and then see what the options are. Like XJsss, I am not sure how the trim is attached and this is one of those things that the service manual is not going to have an answer to other than "replace the piece of trim with new ....".
 
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Old 08-11-2017 | 05:34 PM
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Thanks, Thermo. Yes, it is sticking a few mm out from where it seats under the rubber trim. I can see a TAB, but not how to re-secure it without removing it, and didn't want to trash it taking it off. Thanks to those who replied, though. When I get brave enough to do so, I'll post the result.
 
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Old 08-11-2017 | 05:53 PM
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So I was at my dealer today and spoke to the chief tech there and we pulled it up on topix. In topix the trim peace comes with the 1/4 glass and the "old" trim piece is to be discarded. So it would seem that this trim is attached to the 1/4 glass assembly by some kind of adhesive.
 
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Old 08-11-2017 | 10:03 PM
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Thanks, XJsss. I didn't see any clips or anything on the schematic, either. It concerned me that with a gap like that, water could seep into places where it doesn't belong. I think I can get adhesive in back of it without bending it, so will give that a shot.
 
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Old 08-12-2017 | 06:57 AM
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Enosgl, before you start ripping stuff apart, something you may want to try is locating where that tab is (can be seen in the pic) and marking its location with say a piece of tape on the glass. From there, applying a fair amount of pressure, push the trim back into place using one hand and with the other, push down in the area of the tape. While still pressing down, ease up on pushing the trim into place. The idea I have is that the tab we see is a retaining clip and by pushing in on the trim and then down, it will allow the tab to hook back into place and hold the trim where you want it.
 
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Old 08-13-2017 | 01:54 PM
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I've had a pry around on my car and that trim piece appears to be clipped in place not bonded as there is play in both of mine despite being flush. Exposing the tab shows it clipped 'down' over a moulded nib on the rear quarter class assembly. It appears that installation consists of flexing the two far ends together slightly, inserting into the trim, and then pushing them back out towards the edges of the glass to engage the clips. I suspect they are replaced at the same time as replacing the glass because the clips are one-use and the plastic is typically deformed on removal. It may be that yours has deformed and is not staying in place if you can push it back and it keeps popping out.

Referring to the attached drawing, I think the pink areas have matching clips on the reverse of the chrome trim (not visible in the drawing) and the green one clips over that moulded piece.

Thermo's description of how to reengage it seems logical to me. The only addition I would make would be to apply the pressure as if you were rolling/rocking it towards the window rather than just pushing it straight down. i.e. push it towards the hidden bottom edge of the glass rather than down into the body or directly towards the glass

If it cannot be retained then C3D13550 is the part you need for the RH side as mentioned above.

I doubt water ingress would be possible in that area as the quarter panel glass assembly appears to have a dedicated channel to direct water to the rear even when that chrome trim is not fitted.
 
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Old 08-13-2017 | 10:51 PM
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Thanks, xdave. I wonder if the problem is that there is SUPPOSED to be a "clip", but there is just a "tab" on the extrusion which appears to be well formed and not broken, and a "notch" in the rubber trim that the chromed extrusion is supposed to engage into. The notch seems to be very well formed, as well. Don't see any such clip in the schematics, but guess there HAS to be one. Thanks for the help, guys!
 
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Old 08-14-2017 | 03:45 PM
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I've had another look at mine, and it certainly looks like mine has an angled return to that clip/tab that hooks down, but I cannot see how far it extends as the rubber only bends up so much and I'm hesitant to flex the plastic too much in case it gives out!

Can you compare to your other side and see if you think your good piece has a return on it? I'm wondering if it might just be the angle I'm looking at mine.

I've found loads of photos of the part online by searching for images of C2D13550, but they are all front-on photos and none of the rear!
 
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Old 08-14-2017 | 05:37 PM
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To me looking at the first photo it looks like the top tab is sticking up above where it should be inserted into a rubber channel below as depicted by xdave's #12 post. So I might be inclined to try his suggestion.
 

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