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Damnation. My water pump gave up the ghost today. Thankfully the Low Coolant alert came up just as I was coasting into my garage at the same moment I noticed the puddle on the floor I had left behind when I left about 30 mins prior. I had caught a quick glimpse of the puddle while backing out but I thought it was AC condensation. Thank God the engine didn't overheat out on the road somewhere. This Beck Arnely 131-2464 pump has done about 18k miles over the past 3 years. Time to do some research and see if a better option has surfaced since then.
I feel for you!!
I keep hearing these stories regarding the water pumps and plastic coolant pipes, used on an engine that appears to be "fragile", with respect to overheating, and can't help but say, "WTF"????? This is an $80,000 USD, luxury car, not a $4500 Yugo! This makes me wary of driving the car any distance. And last year, when I was at the dealership, for the annual visit, I was talking with the sales manager, and according to him, cooling system "issues" are not a case of "if", it's a case of "when".
For God's sake, I can go down to the corner, to Joe Blow's Bargain cars, pick up a 20 year old Chevy, with the 305-350 cubic inch, "small block" engine, and drive it for another few years, without giving the cooling system much thought. You would think, by now, the Jaguar engineering staff would have figured this out........
PS, these guys didn't happen to work for Lucas, did they?
Maybe I'll just add "water pump replacement" to the standard preventative maintenance schedule. Replace it every 2 years and hopefully wont have to worry about it.
Maybe I'll just add "water pump replacement" to the standard preventative maintenance schedule. Replace it every 2 years and hopefully wont have to worry about it.
Apparently its not just the water pump but all the plastic cooling pipes also.
If you do the water pump really consider going to the lifetime Aluminum parts that the aftermarket has released. We now have a number of installs and no problems have been reported. But you are right it's a shame. Even worse is in the beginning the 5.0L engine started with Al. cooling pipes then Jaguar "upgraded" them to the terrible failure prone plastic seamed pipes I think in 2012 or so.
After working in manufacturing I think it's just the old problem of cutting costs and this one really cost them a pile of warranty money!
Also get the Aluminum water transfer tube. It's too cheap not too. We are waiting as the vendor of the above Aluminum piping has stated they are working on more Aluminum replacement parts. The rear water manifold was mentioned.
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.... Even worse is in the beginning the 5.0L engine started with Al. cooling pipes then Jaguar "upgraded" them to the terrible failure prone plastic seamed pipes I think in 2012 or so. .
So...my 2011 has aluminum pipes? First I have read about this. Is there more info somewhere about this?
Its not just the x351 Jags with plastic cooling parts.
I have replaced a few on our 2001 xj8 as well as 2 water pumps. Only 75k miles now.
Not just Jags either. Many makes of cars use plastic coolant parts.
Yes plastic cooling parts are a problem for all cars. My old S Type had the dreaded under the SC cooling hose leak. $20 hose and hours of labor to change!
Yes the front cooling pipes were changed. The earlier version the "Y" pipe had a crook at the top and another little connector piece. Then Jaguar eliminated the crook and the little coupling making it more of a straight "Y" piece. The crooked "Y" style was made both in Aluminum and plastic but is now obsolete and has been replaced by the straight "Y" pipe in plastic.
Tried to find some pictures to show the differences but nothing very good was found. Of course with the wonderful after market Aluminum cooling pipes all that does not matter anymore.
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Its not just the x351 Jags with plastic cooling parts.
I have replaced a few on our 2001 xj8 as well as 2 water pumps. Only 75k miles now.
Not just Jags either. Many makes of cars use plastic coolant parts.
Porsche Cayenne Turbos have the nasty pipe under the turbo. Last I heard it was about a $3,000 fix.
We all know about what an opinion is worth, but I really have to say it, after looking at this picture for a long time,
I gotta say, if you ever want to sell this car, you better hope this stuff comes off. Simply appalling.
Successfully repaired a front wheel spoiler torn by a PO. Used this tool from Harbor Freight
While there, sanded down "whiskers" from other front spoilers from parking curbs etc. that klutz had driven over. Nice and tidy down there now. Hoping this will qualify me for **** Retentive XJ Owner Award this year.
Your 2011 HAD Aluminum pipes from the factory BUT they were made different and failed just as badly as the ones made entirely of plastic. There was a small connector at the top of the "Y" crook that connected the two cooling pipes together which failed and caused leaks/over heating. As posted above those style of cooling pipes are NLA in AL. or plastic as the entire design was changed. The small connector between the two pipes was eliminated completely with the updated design as well as the crook. The "Y" pipe after that was a straight neck design BUT still made of crappy plastic.
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I did a two stage paint correction - by next year I hope to have a replacement carbon fiber hood with hood vents installed and painted to finish my XJR-L retrofit build.
I applied one coat of Kamikaze Zipang. I think it turned out great. I included a screenshot from my security camera - after the coating it sent a blue reflection on my white garage walls which I found funny
Very nice!
How much will that CF hood cost you?
Got to be expensive?
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thanks! $1450 from VehicleRevolutions - they’ll ship worldwide, fitment is OEM! I figure if I’m changing my hood out, I may as well remove weight for the cost of the stock XJR hood.
08-29-2022, 10:18 AM
