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Old 04-05-2014, 01:13 PM
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Default 2004 XJR rear wheel bearings

Mine are noisy especially when banking left and I think I will replace them for starters. Look through the manual (section 204-02) it looks like you need a whole bunch of specialized tool to remove the wheel knuckle from the wheel hub - they are joined together by this bearing - and then the wheel bearing itself.

Has anyone done this? Words of wisdom, thread, pics out there? The requisite search did not show much.... I do have access to a hydraulic press.
 
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Are you sure it's the bearings? Have you checked the tires on the back? I'd check them out maybe swap the front & rear tyres over just to rule out our before you go down the bearing swap road.
 
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Originally Posted by Cambo351
Are you sure it's the bearings? Have you checked the tires on the back?
Could also be a dragging brake pad...

Have you done the traditional check for wheel bearing play at the rear wheels by raising and safely supporting both rear wheels (the manual states that raising only one wheel can twist the aluminum structure). Grasp each tire at the 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock positions and alternately push with the upper hand while pulling with the lower, then reverse. If you feel any play or hear any knocking or other sounds in the bearing area, you probably need a new bearing. Don't mistake movement in the tire for movement in the hub....

Let us know what you find upon inspection.

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I thought I had a bearing problem too until I changed tires and it went away. Would not have believed the types of of sounds a set of tires generated.
 
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Thanx gents for your advice! So the tires are new - only 4000 miles on them. They are expensive Continentals I installed about 6 months ago. It is not a dragging brake either.

So, following Don's advice for checking the bearings with all four wheels off the ground, there is quite a bit of play in the left rear wheel but none on the right one. So, it does look like a wheel bearing replacement is in order.
 
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Originally Posted by Lagonia
So, following Don's advice for checking the bearings with all four wheels off the ground, there is quite a bit of play in the left rear wheel but none on the right one. So, it does look like a wheel bearing replacement is in order.
Well done, Lagonia! Now I hope you can find some tips or a photo-tutorial on doing the job. I've done it on our '88 and '93 but haven't had to touch the bearings on the '04 yet. Let us know how it goes.

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This might help, last post in the thread https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...it-help-30957/
 
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After taking off the wheel, brake caliper, parking brake caliper and rotor I realized that the movement experienced was due to a bad lower wishbone arm bushing... looking at JEPC there do not seem to be available separately.

More headaches on the way.....
 
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Default 2004 XJ - Rear Lower wishbone arm bushes source

In trying to pursue a potential problem with rear wheel bearings, after taking off all the brake attachments from the wheel knuckle, I realized that the play in wheel movement I was experiencing is due to the outer bushing on the lower rear wishbone arm (left hand side). There is quite a bit of conflicting information out there with respect whether these bushings are replaceable or not but I did run into this eBay post offering all the three bushes:

JAGUAR S TYPE / X350 LOWER REAR WISHBONE BUSHES, FULL SET FOR ONE ARM

It looks like these bushes are being shipped from Portugal. Any experience with replacing these bushes? Any US based sources for these bushes?

Thanx.
 
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Actually, the bearing is also bad big time. I removed the hub carrier/wheel hub assembly and sure enough the bearing is noisy and loose; the lower arm bushings are toast. Got my work cut out for me:















 
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That supplier in Portugal is legit, a few guy in the UK have sourced bushes from him. You cannot find them any cheaper than that, just a PITA to wait for delivery...

I don't know of any supplier in the US. Those bushes aren't available from ZF / Lemförder individually AFAIK...https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...0-x350-101725/
 

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Just recently done the same thing, at the same left rear wheel. Initially thought on rear diff.. the noise was like train is taking of like airplane at around 80km/h But my indy said without a doubt - left rear bearing. replace. What expirience means. I think it was damaged when I used car with top nut loosened at balljoint on the left top rear arm. I was lucky it was not lost completely.. the feeling on road was like gliding on power boat and that time i thought that was that differentiates jaguar from other cars
 
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That is some puller!

You need something like that because I know that the hub can be very tight on the driveshaft splines.
 
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Originally Posted by meirion1
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That is some puller!

You need something like that because I know that the hub can be very tight on the driveshaft splines.
That monstrocity of a puller coupled with a healthy impact gun does the trick every time.
 
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Default Removing the lower control arm

Removing the lower control arm, once the hub and hub carrier are out of course, did not prove to be a big deal. The lift is not needed for sure. Impact gun *really* helps but it is not necessary:



Remove the bolt holding the shock absorber to the lower control arm:


Remove the rear back arm bolt. Impact gun is a life saver


Remove the rear shock absorber height sensor and push it out of the way to get to the rear front arm bolt.




Oops. Forgot the stabilizer link. No prob, just unscrew it and you are done


Done


Bad bushing


Bad bushing
 
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A tip
When pressing out old and pressing in new bushes, pour a couple of kettles of boiling water over the aluminium arm. Aluminium has twice the coefficient of expansion of steel, so it will really ease the task of pressing.

Funnily enough this was told me by a chap in a Jaguar main agent ! As we all know, Jaguar will not supply the bushes separately, claiming it is a safety issue. Frankly I don't believe it. If done correctly, there is no hazard as thousands of Jaguar owners with replaced bushes can testify.

I see the ball joint boot on Lagonias anti-roll bar link is also knackered, and maybe the ball joint too !
 
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Originally Posted by Fraser Mitchell
I see the ball joint boot on Lagonias anti-roll bar link is also knackered, and maybe the ball joint too !
All that hardware is on order and will be replaced.
 
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Originally Posted by Lagonia
That monstrocity of a puller coupled with a healthy impact gun does the trick every time.

I think I have "Puller Envy," Lagonia! I'm going to have to find one of those!

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Originally Posted by Fraser Mitchell
A tip
When pressing out old and pressing in new bushes, pour a couple of kettles of boiling water over the aluminium arm. Aluminium has twice the coefficient of expansion of steel, so it will really ease the task of pressing.
And put the bushes in the freezer for a while to reduce their outer circumferences.... Some advise to leave them overnight, but I've found that they give up their heat and do most of their contraction in the first 30 minutes or so.

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Originally Posted by Don B
And put the bushes in the freezer for a while to reduce their outer circumferences.... Some advise to leave them overnight, but I've found that they give up their heat and do most of their contraction in the first 30 minutes or so.

Cheers,

Don
I have to take them out first...
 


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