ACC Not Working; ICarsoft v3.0; Mongoose?
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Thanks, MHamilton! Yes, removing the error message makes sense; somehow, I missed that point completely! At this point, I've lost all interest in fixing ACC unless it is the brake light or some other simple switch.
I've wasted enough of everyone's time on this for now. I think I'll put it away for another 6 years; regrettably, they'll go by quicker than we want!
I've wasted enough of everyone's time on this for now. I think I'll put it away for another 6 years; regrettably, they'll go by quicker than we want!
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I encountered this problem a couple of years ago on another 2004 XJ. It transpired that those first X350's used a different sensor system than 2005 onwards cars (from memory early cars had everything contained in the one component, whereas later cars used two separate parts). I tried to get my unit repaired unsuccessfully and tried everything to get the system working (not that I was bothered about the lack of ACC but because it also disabled the normal cruise control). Eventually I purchased a used ECU from a car of the same vintage and spec (except no ACC), fitted same and, using SDD, programmed the used unit to my car - problem solved. Worth bearing the aforementioned in mind if buying an early X350 with ACC - if there's no cruise available (warning on dash) consider walking away unless you are prepared to change the ECU (Used early units are very rare and have been unavailable from Jaguar for some time and, when they were available, were around £2,000 GBP !!)
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Thanks, Motorcarman & CaptainQ. This is starting to make sense even to me.
When schedule permits, I hope to study manual for removal & inspection procedure; will likely be several months.
Before I start, will take car to dealer; if it hasn't gone up, they will run the codes for $150.00 + 10% tax.
I've already installed a new clockspring only to find that there was nothing wrong with the original.
I noticed that some sellers have a core charge for the unit; hence it must be repairable. I was quite gratified many years ago when, thanks to Bagpiping Andy in Scotland, when I was able to successfully rebuild the compressor for the suspension system. If the radar needs to be replaced and rebuilding is an option, that would be my first choice.
When schedule permits, I hope to study manual for removal & inspection procedure; will likely be several months.
Before I start, will take car to dealer; if it hasn't gone up, they will run the codes for $150.00 + 10% tax.
I've already installed a new clockspring only to find that there was nothing wrong with the original.
I noticed that some sellers have a core charge for the unit; hence it must be repairable. I was quite gratified many years ago when, thanks to Bagpiping Andy in Scotland, when I was able to successfully rebuild the compressor for the suspension system. If the radar needs to be replaced and rebuilding is an option, that would be my first choice.
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You will need to modify the VID block (not for the 'faint-of-heart') so the network will not 'look for' the radar unit.
Whatever you do, DOWNLOAD AND SAVE THE CURRENT VID BLOCK BEFORE CONFIGURING ANYTHING.
If the VID block becomes CORRUPTED you can at least go back to what you have.
When in new car warranty, the VID block got 'screwed-up' we could download and send it to the Jaguar engineers for correction. They would email back the 'repaired' VID block and we would upload back to the car.
good luck.
Whatever you do, DOWNLOAD AND SAVE THE CURRENT VID BLOCK BEFORE CONFIGURING ANYTHING.
If the VID block becomes CORRUPTED you can at least go back to what you have.
When in new car warranty, the VID block got 'screwed-up' we could download and send it to the Jaguar engineers for correction. They would email back the 'repaired' VID block and we would upload back to the car.
good luck.
I have ECM swapped some time ago after diving due to cloged drain and chasing afterwards some gremlins in CAN network as well as ACC problem. But at some stage someone from those who tried to fix it added "standard cruise control" I guess from dealer options in IDS/SDD. I found my old VID block from original ECM in some very old sessions on laptop and it seams ACC is properly programmed there. I also found a guy on X100 section of the forum who did the same mistake but he never replied how he managed to open VID block editor function in SDD in addition to read. I used engeneering code VID_BLOCK_EDITOR from vehcom.com but without success.
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Oh! Thank you very much for this priceless info, motorcarman! Seriosly, I almost gave up trying to fix my VID block. Do you have this app (vid block manager) to share?
I have ECM swapped some time ago after diving due to cloged drain and chasing afterwards some gremlins in CAN network as well as ACC problem. But at some stage someone from those who tried to fix it added "standard cruise control" I guess from dealer options in IDS/SDD. I found my old VID block from original ECM in some very old sessions on laptop and it seams ACC is properly programmed there. I also found a guy on X100 section of the forum who did the same mistake but he never replied how he managed to open VID block editor function in SDD in addition to read. I used engeneering code VID_BLOCK_EDITOR from vehcom.com but without success.
I have ECM swapped some time ago after diving due to cloged drain and chasing afterwards some gremlins in CAN network as well as ACC problem. But at some stage someone from those who tried to fix it added "standard cruise control" I guess from dealer options in IDS/SDD. I found my old VID block from original ECM in some very old sessions on laptop and it seams ACC is properly programmed there. I also found a guy on X100 section of the forum who did the same mistake but he never replied how he managed to open VID block editor function in SDD in addition to read. I used engeneering code VID_BLOCK_EDITOR from vehcom.com but without success.
it carries the “as-built” VIDs for most cars until about the middle of 08, any later and you’re outta luck.
Last edited by xalty; 07-27-2022 at 08:20 AM.
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VBM doesn't do anything except make a folder \Session\XXXXXX (last 6 of your VIN) on the drive you selected.
I know a guy who can manually rewrite\restore broken VIDs if you need I can give him a message. Open the block read app, from there you go to your external drive letter, open the edited VID then it will say "changes have been made do you wish to update?". After it's done I don't know if you need to go back into your session and program ECM as new to change cruise or if it's one and done like that
I've never had to do it this way because old IDS and WDS can just edit it for me. With newer tools you need to get creative.
I know a guy who can manually rewrite\restore broken VIDs if you need I can give him a message. Open the block read app, from there you go to your external drive letter, open the edited VID then it will say "changes have been made do you wish to update?". After it's done I don't know if you need to go back into your session and program ECM as new to change cruise or if it's one and done like that
I've never had to do it this way because old IDS and WDS can just edit it for me. With newer tools you need to get creative.
Last edited by xalty; 07-28-2022 at 09:57 AM.
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first buy a real gna600/vcm and then some people on here can help you out with the software. you might have trouble getting one because of your location.
if you want to try to change it via VID block special app I can send the guy a message and see if he can edit it for you.
if you want to try to change it via VID block special app I can send the guy a message and see if he can edit it for you.
Last edited by xalty; 07-28-2022 at 06:36 PM.
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it is not in that menu
when you first enter vin it will ask you to READ configuration from the vehicle. say NO. then it will pull up the VCATS as-built information and ask if it is correct. now scroll down and change standard speed control to adaptive + other relevant options that may have been retrofitted by dealer.
now you have edited VID block for that specific session. it is the what IDS will use to rebuild the block when flashing a new ECM.
when you first enter vin it will ask you to READ configuration from the vehicle. say NO. then it will pull up the VCATS as-built information and ask if it is correct. now scroll down and change standard speed control to adaptive + other relevant options that may have been retrofitted by dealer.
now you have edited VID block for that specific session. it is the what IDS will use to rebuild the block when flashing a new ECM.
Last edited by xalty; 08-10-2022 at 04:08 PM.
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Key note here is EMPTY vid block when flashing new ECM. If you flash ECM second time "as new" it doesn't always work. At least for me, at least for Adaptive cruise option - byte 27 in ECM configuration field of VID block always stays filled by 48 value (standard cruise). 48 is there because of some incompetent indy. Factory bulletin says of manual VID block direct editing when method 1 doesnt work
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I'm to thank dear xalty for not leaving me with my issue. Shortly, he re-checked personally what he sugested finding it doesn't work as it should. But he tried to find another solution and sugested to try it. And that worked perfect! Moreover it gave more bonus) I wish him all the best and all the jaguarforums community and personally motorcarman who supplied me with proper software. Thank you very much, gentlemen!
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