My XJ sadly is not the car that its predecessor (a Volvo S60 T5) was!
I have spent more time/effort/money on this car, than I did on the Volvo in two years of ownership and I still have a flashcode 17 SRS fault to this day!
I really want to like and enjoy this car, just like I did previous Jaguars I've owned, but my patience is being severely tested.

 

OK, fair enough, but what are you trying to tell us ? Are you wanting assistance or sympathy ? What has severely tested your patience ?

Most cars can suffer from faults, and whilst I consider my car, a 2003 XJ6 an excellent car, I have also had to carry out various maintenance and repair jobs since I bought it in 2010. Much depends on how previous owners look after their cars.

 

Flash Code 17 is not going to disappear by itself. Having had the same code on my XK8, I know how difficult this one can be to troubleshoot.

You started a thread about this on May 27th 2013:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...de-17-a-96042/

DanJensen posted on how to check the Occupant Sensors and I posted the extract from the Technical Service Bulletin there explaining the possible causes of Code 17.

The way forward with this issue is either to obtain a scantool which can read SRS Bxxx and PID codes or to take the vehicle to garage that has has the right diagnostic equipment.

One thing is absolutely certain - the car will fail its next MoT if the Airbag light is illuminated.

Graham

 

Yes indeed flash code 17 is proving to be a bugger and having gone through everything that I can, which amounts to everything except a re-calibration, I believe that I will have to pay a visit to my local Jaguar dealer!
This was not a plea for help, or indeed a whimper hoping to attract sympathy, no moreover a statement from someone who does a respectable amount of miles during the course of his working life!
The two cars I had before this Jaguar (a Volvo V70 T5 and Volvo S60 T5), were both less troublesome, requiring service items only during their life with me. In fact the V70 is still going strong (I sold it locally) with over 250000 miles on the clock!
Problem is, I really want to like this car and to be honest, I'm struggling!

 

Sounds like you're not really up to the task of owning one of these cars.

 

If a Volvo satisfies your motoring needs then maybe you need to go back to them. I do agree that sometimes owning a Jaguar can be a frustrating experience. In my own case, I had flickering headlamps for some 2 years, culminating late last year in all headlights going out for about 2 seconds whilst I was on a B-road near here in total darkness, (not even moonlight !!) In the end, XJK Jaguar, a local independent replaced the headlight switch and all was well. This kind of thing is not subject to fault codes or even warnings, so I was getting a bit fed up. Having owned this car since 2010, it is clear there are a certain number of "issues" that owners have to face up to. The X350 was late in coming to market and I do suspect that some things were not given the attention they deserved at the time (2002). The aluminium body construction was a leap forward in technology, and probably took up too much valuable time to get it right. Latest news is that all future Jaguar cars will use this technology developed by Ford at huge cost.

I think Tata Motors have done wonders for the company, and we now have official Jaguar contacts on this forum and can be contacted in cases where forum members have found the main dealers to not satisfy their needs.

 

That could be a traumatic (£££) experience with an SRS fault. Jaguar policy is harness repairs to airbag module circuits are not acceptable. Where a 'repair to a circuit' is required, this normally means the replacement of a harness.

In addition, the system bristles with sensors:





(click on the images to enlarge them)

The JTIS testing procedure runs to 47 pages:

JTIS - X350 Air Bag Supplemental Restraint System.pdf

It does state 'if the Jaguar approved diagnostic system is not available, use a scan tool to extract DTCs and follow the pinpoint diagnostics'. A skilled independent will be capable of troubleshooting this for you if there is one available locally.

Graham

 

Volvos are for soccer moms! When you see a Jag on the road you know a real man worked hard to get it there.

 

Absolutely !! However there are a lot of us guys who really do like cars that don't give loads of hassle !!! I put up with a lot for that body style but sometimes I think I'm an idiot for doing so.

 

No! Repeat after me, "REAL MAN!"

 

Like it !

In my time I have rebuilt a Mark 2 from a bare shell, and also most of an XJ6. I have now laid down my tools and taken a rest.

 

Advice that I won't be taking just at the moment thank you! But all the same advice, I think?

I Couldn't agree more and I haven't given up on the old bus just yet..

 

To be honest, my first Jag was an '87 XJS, out of warranty. It NEVER ran. I had recurring nightmares all the time, as it was my only car, I still owed the bank for it, and it never ran long enough to think about selling it. But, when it DID run, there is no other car like it. It was like sitting on your living room couch at 100+ mph.

It took almost 20 years to get over the frustration with that car, but the memory of how smooth and sure it drove stayed with me.

When I got back into Jags, I had no misconceptions about them ever being a reliable cars. I went back for the ride quality. With that attitude (and a spare car since I have more money now), I have loved my '95 XJS and '05 XJ8. They demand attention...usually at the worst times.

But...nothing else drives like a Jag.

So, (back to kidding), learn to man up and enjoy your babe magnet while it runs. Chicks don't duel over Volvos!

 

Ok guys Gmad, needs more help than ribbing I think!

We ALL go through stages with some of our loved vehicles thinking...what am I doing?? but soldier on regardless usually, however, I'm sure we've all been there at some point.

Any helpful useful advice appreciated........after all its why we're here isn't it?

Don't go back to the Volvo Gmad....stick with it my friend.

Good luck

 

GMad,

You've got to bring the car, IMO, to either a specialist who can diagnose it or a dealer. Either or.

Shouldn't be too bad of a fix. As far as reliability goes, my 06 XJ8 has been just about perfect. I'm at 93k miles and the only thing wrong with it so far, as far as an actual breakdown, was a loose connection to the driver's door window motor. And I just realized today that the car had been hit last year and had the door replaced so it's not even the car's fault!

OK, silly I know but I have a lot of cars and was out of town when it happened, I forgot.

Meanwhile the Lexus that I had before the XF? Might as well have been made by Derek Robinson himself at Longbridge.

 

I put out the ABS light in a mates X350 by reflashing the restraints module with the SDD diagnostic system. Don't remember the exact code it had now, but it was something to do with the passenger side occupant sensor.

Has the restraints module been reflashed yet?

Get the car to an independant Jaguar specialist who has the factory level diagnostics (SDD, previously known as IDS) and ask them to have a look at it. Could be something that simple.

I read your other thread just now, it does sound like a wiring/connection problem, but if you haven't had the reflash done, try it.

 

Ok thanks for the positive words (from some of you) and as for the others, what is it with all the negative waves?
I'm not getting shot of it because of one poxy little warning light. Nope I'm either going to fix it (like I fixed the front wheel bearings), or get it fixed..
So does anyone know of a well respected Jaguar specialist that's not too far from East Shropshire? The centre of Birmingham is only thirty five miles away, so somewhere in the West Midlands would be good..

 

Had the airbag light showing more than a few times on and off on my sons Clio.....turned out to be a bad connection under the passenger seat......

I'm sure I've seen this here a few times too........presumably you've checked this?

It could be a simple fix for no cost!

 

Try XJK Jaguar of Newcastle-under-Lyme. Ian Kelsall used to work for Jaguar and you will find him extremely knowledgable about the later cars.

 

Excellent and thank you, I'll give them a try and as luck would have it I'm going to be working in Manchester quite a bit over the next few months, so I'm pretty much driving past them on the way