Air suspension shocks and compressor
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I was online the other day and in Ebay I saw this Company "Suncore " about air suspension Products, their air shocks and compressor run at a very good price and since I need to replace mine I'm thinking in giving them a shot.
My question to them was if their Air Spring and compressors are Arnotts (which I already know it's quality ) but they answered , No, that it's their own made by them "Suncore " but the only difference I see it's basically the Suncore label on them.
So my question is; Has anyone bought this brand before "Suncore" ?? Are they any good like the Arnotts ??
Thank you 😎👍
My question to them was if their Air Spring and compressors are Arnotts (which I already know it's quality ) but they answered , No, that it's their own made by them "Suncore " but the only difference I see it's basically the Suncore label on them.
So my question is; Has anyone bought this brand before "Suncore" ?? Are they any good like the Arnotts ??
Thank you 😎👍
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I am also looking for replacements for an XJR. One issue I have with the Arnotts is that they are NOT active dampening units, which WILL affect ride. Given the Suncores are REBUILT units, I would think that they are ACTIVE. Have you gotten that far with Suncore? I would also be interested to know if any others have used their products, and how well they were made and held up.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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The Audi A8 use almost the same "shocks" as active dampening air springs. Seen people use Suncore with good results. The rebuilds are normally, tear down, clean up, change a couple o-rings, and install new rubber bladder. Then nice paint. Not a lot for 3-5 hundred dollars.
Seems all rebuilders have a few duds. Having a warrenty covers you here.
Seems all rebuilders have a few duds. Having a warrenty covers you here.
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I replaced one of my front air springs with a Suncore unit. Here is the thread:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-158981/page2/
So far so good.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-158981/page2/
So far so good.
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As long time forum members may recall Arnott offered remanufactured OE Jaguar struts for several years before discontinuing them. While we thoroughly test each used strut before completely rebuilding them – the Jaguar remans still had a higher failure rate than we wanted. We still remanufactured plenty of other vehicle struts but we found our new Arnott designed Jaguar units for the X350 & X358 Chassis provide an excellent ride with no miles on the shock damper and no complaints about the strut or ride quality.
The Arnott designed new struts, while not offering CATS functionality, drive exceptionally well. If you search this forum you will find great reviews of our new struts. The new shock is custom tuned to provide a superior ride and provides many years of reliability and ride quality. While we recommend replacing them in pairs, many customers have installed ours on one side with an OE unit still on the other side. Of course you also don't have a core deposit with the New struts either.
We offer new Arnott designed struts now for vehicles with Sport and Comfort Suspensions (as well as our coil spring conversion kits and air suspension compressors). For more information click here: https://www.arnottindustries.com/part_JAGUAR_yid20.html
The Arnott designed new struts, while not offering CATS functionality, drive exceptionally well. If you search this forum you will find great reviews of our new struts. The new shock is custom tuned to provide a superior ride and provides many years of reliability and ride quality. While we recommend replacing them in pairs, many customers have installed ours on one side with an OE unit still on the other side. Of course you also don't have a core deposit with the New struts either.
We offer new Arnott designed struts now for vehicles with Sport and Comfort Suspensions (as well as our coil spring conversion kits and air suspension compressors). For more information click here: https://www.arnottindustries.com/part_JAGUAR_yid20.html
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As long time forum members may recall Arnott offered remanufactured OE Jaguar struts for several years before discontinuing them. While we thoroughly test each used strut before completely rebuilding them – the Jaguar remans still had a higher failure rate than we wanted. We still remanufactured plenty of other vehicle struts but we found our new Arnott designed Jaguar units for the X350 & X358 Chassis provide an excellent ride with no miles on the shock damper and no complaints about the strut or ride quality.
The Arnott designed new struts, while not offering CATS functionality, drive exceptionally well. If you search this forum you will find great reviews of our new struts. The new shock is custom tuned to provide a superior ride and provides many years of reliability and ride quality. While we recommend replacing them in pairs, many customers have installed ours on one side with an OE unit still on the other side. Of course you also don't have a core deposit with the New struts either.
We offer new Arnott designed struts now for vehicles with Sport and Comfort Suspensions (as well as our coil spring conversion kits and air suspension compressors). For more information click here: https://www.arnottindustries.com/part_JAGUAR_yid20.html
The Arnott designed new struts, while not offering CATS functionality, drive exceptionally well. If you search this forum you will find great reviews of our new struts. The new shock is custom tuned to provide a superior ride and provides many years of reliability and ride quality. While we recommend replacing them in pairs, many customers have installed ours on one side with an OE unit still on the other side. Of course you also don't have a core deposit with the New struts either.
We offer new Arnott designed struts now for vehicles with Sport and Comfort Suspensions (as well as our coil spring conversion kits and air suspension compressors). For more information click here: https://www.arnottindustries.com/part_JAGUAR_yid20.html
I noticed that when I replaced my rear air shocks with new Arnotts they came longer than the ones I saw in the Arnott installation video and I had to use an extra jack to jack them up in order to make it close to level it with the control arm to insert the screw that hold it in place, I have to replace the front ones soon and the Arnott video online shows an air spring that is shorter than the one for sale which it looks longer the do not show how to install a longer air spring in the video I mean how to make it shrink for installation
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Good information , question :
I noticed that when I replaced my rear air shocks with new Arnotts they came longer than the ones I saw in the Arnott installation video and I had to use an extra jack to jack them up in order to make it close to level it with the control arm to insert the screw that hold it in place, I have to replace the front ones soon and the Arnott video online shows an air spring that is shorter than the one for sale which it looks longer the do not show how to install a longer air spring in the video I mean how to make it shrink for installation
I noticed that when I replaced my rear air shocks with new Arnotts they came longer than the ones I saw in the Arnott installation video and I had to use an extra jack to jack them up in order to make it close to level it with the control arm to insert the screw that hold it in place, I have to replace the front ones soon and the Arnott video online shows an air spring that is shorter than the one for sale which it looks longer the do not show how to install a longer air spring in the video I mean how to make it shrink for installation
Hi rf69,
The trick on the rear units is that you have to put the key in the ignition and turn it to position II (do not crank the engine), then pull the gear select lever to the Neutral position. The rear suspension will suddenly drop with a loud "thunk." Return the gear shift lever to Park and remove the key. You will now find that you can install the rear air springs/dampers with no need to compress them. This instruction appears in one of the Arnott videos, but it does not appear in the printed instructions that Arnott supplies with the kits and on their website. When I called the Arnott customer service department the representative I spoke with also failed to tell me about dropping the rear suspension even though I was asking why the shocks seemed too long. Frustrated, I went back and watched the YouTube video to see why it seemed so easy to install the rear units, and there was the trick about dropping the rear suspension.
Doug, could you have this important step added to the printed instructions? One other thing - in the X350 instruction video on YouTube, the female narrator repeatedly refers to "nuts" as "bolts." We understand what she's talking about, but it undermines the otherwise highly-professional presentation.
Cheers,
Don
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Hi rf69,
The trick on the rear units is that you have to put the key in the ignition and turn it to position II (do not crank the engine), then pull the gear select lever to the Neutral position. The rear suspension will suddenly drop with a loud "thunk." Return the gear shift lever to Park and remove the key. You will now find that you can install the rear air springs/dampers with no need to compress them. This instruction appears in one of the Arnott videos, but it does not appear in the printed instructions that Arnott supplies with the kits and on their website. When I called the Arnott customer service department the representative I spoke with also failed to tell me about dropping the rear suspension even though I was asking why the shocks seemed too long.
Doug, could you have this important step added to the printed instructions? One other thing - in the X350 instruction video on YouTube, the female narrator repeatedly refers to "nuts" as "bolts." We understand what she's talking about, but it undermines the otherwise highly-professional presentation.
Cheers,
Don
The trick on the rear units is that you have to put the key in the ignition and turn it to position II (do not crank the engine), then pull the gear select lever to the Neutral position. The rear suspension will suddenly drop with a loud "thunk." Return the gear shift lever to Park and remove the key. You will now find that you can install the rear air springs/dampers with no need to compress them. This instruction appears in one of the Arnott videos, but it does not appear in the printed instructions that Arnott supplies with the kits and on their website. When I called the Arnott customer service department the representative I spoke with also failed to tell me about dropping the rear suspension even though I was asking why the shocks seemed too long.
Doug, could you have this important step added to the printed instructions? One other thing - in the X350 instruction video on YouTube, the female narrator repeatedly refers to "nuts" as "bolts." We understand what she's talking about, but it undermines the otherwise highly-professional presentation.
Cheers,
Don
Thank you for the advice
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Another trick I figured out on my second Arnott conversion:
Installing the rear units by yourself is challenging because the units are heavy and you must align the four threaded studs with the holes in the body/shock tower "blind." You can't see what you are doing from below. Even with a helper it's difficult.
The solution I came up with was to slip a section of rubber tubing on each of the two threaded studs that fit through the larger holes in the body. The four holes for studs are arranged in a rectangle and the two larger holes are diagonal from one another.
Suitable tubing will have an inside diameter that will fit snugly on the studs (maybe 1/4 in. to 5/16 in.?), and have walls that are thin enough that the tube will fit through the larger holes in the body. The tubes should be long enough that they will extend through the holes while the air spring/damper is standing at rest with its lower bushing on the ground below the car.
Feed the upper ends of the tubes through the holes in the body, and as you raise the air spring/damper, the tubing will guide the studs into the holes. If you have a helper, have her or him gently pull on the tubing from inside the trunk and it works even better.
Cheers,
Don
Installing the rear units by yourself is challenging because the units are heavy and you must align the four threaded studs with the holes in the body/shock tower "blind." You can't see what you are doing from below. Even with a helper it's difficult.
The solution I came up with was to slip a section of rubber tubing on each of the two threaded studs that fit through the larger holes in the body. The four holes for studs are arranged in a rectangle and the two larger holes are diagonal from one another.
Suitable tubing will have an inside diameter that will fit snugly on the studs (maybe 1/4 in. to 5/16 in.?), and have walls that are thin enough that the tube will fit through the larger holes in the body. The tubes should be long enough that they will extend through the holes while the air spring/damper is standing at rest with its lower bushing on the ground below the car.
Feed the upper ends of the tubes through the holes in the body, and as you raise the air spring/damper, the tubing will guide the studs into the holes. If you have a helper, have her or him gently pull on the tubing from inside the trunk and it works even better.
Cheers,
Don
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Another trick I figured out on my second Arnott conversion:
Installing the rear units by yourself is challenging because the units are heavy and you must align the four threaded studs with the holes in the body/shock tower "blind." You can't see what you are doing from below. Even with a helper it's difficult.
The solution I came up with was to slip a section of rubber tubing on each of the two threaded studs that fit through the larger holes in the body. The four holes for studs are arranged in a rectangle and the two larger holes are diagonal from one another.
Suitable tubing will have an inside diameter that will fit snugly on the studs (maybe 1/4 in. to 5/16 in.?), and have walls that are thin enough that the tube will fit through the larger holes in the body. The tubes should be long enough that they will extend through the holes while the air spring/damper is standing at rest with its lower bushing on the ground below the car.
Feed the upper ends of the tubes through the holes in the body, and as you raise the air spring/damper, the tubing will guide the studs into the holes. If you have a helper, have her or him gently pull on the tubing from inside the trunk and it works even better.
Cheers,
Don
Installing the rear units by yourself is challenging because the units are heavy and you must align the four threaded studs with the holes in the body/shock tower "blind." You can't see what you are doing from below. Even with a helper it's difficult.
The solution I came up with was to slip a section of rubber tubing on each of the two threaded studs that fit through the larger holes in the body. The four holes for studs are arranged in a rectangle and the two larger holes are diagonal from one another.
Suitable tubing will have an inside diameter that will fit snugly on the studs (maybe 1/4 in. to 5/16 in.?), and have walls that are thin enough that the tube will fit through the larger holes in the body. The tubes should be long enough that they will extend through the holes while the air spring/damper is standing at rest with its lower bushing on the ground below the car.
Feed the upper ends of the tubes through the holes in the body, and as you raise the air spring/damper, the tubing will guide the studs into the holes. If you have a helper, have her or him gently pull on the tubing from inside the trunk and it works even better.
Cheers,
Don
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Cheers,
Don
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It will only do that if the rear end of the car is jacked up with the wheels off the ground. The halfshafts are part of the rear suspension design and the tension in the differential/transmission restricts them from rotating and dropping as long as the transmission is in Park.
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