Anyone have any experience with the Metal Trans Pan
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_6R_transmission
... but... the pan GASKET fit to the casting very easily could be identical.
Next challenge is that SKU# is already out of stock, many of the usual suspects. That will only get worse going forward, never better.
Where I can do, I've been putting aside "show stopper" parts as have or WILL go hard to get. Complete ABS system. Spare WABCO compressor PLUS more than one rebuild kit.. new cylinder, new rod , new piston.. not "just" seals.. etc.
WHEN someone locks down a source, might be wise to add this gasket to that sort of stash .. IF.. it needs to be 'different' for a metal pan.
ZF 6HP26 gaskets in general are still commonplace and cheap enough.
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Bill - I've found loads of sources for BL3Z-7A191-C gaskets. They are the metal construction ones with rubber beading along the inner perimeter. They certainly look the part in online listings. Whenever I ask for confirmation that they'll fit my application, I receive the same predicable replies "this part does not fit your application". For $25, I may just go ahead and buy one to try.
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Bill - I've found loads of sources for BL3Z-7A191-C gaskets. They are the metal construction ones with rubber beading along the inner perimeter. They certainly look the part in online listings. Whenever I ask for confirmation that they'll fit my application, I receive the same predicable replies "this part does not fit your application". For $25, I may just go ahead and buy one to try.
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I WAS looking at a cheaper-yet 'bet', but I'd guess ithis one is only "funny paper"?
https://transpartswarehouse.com/4930...steel-pan.html
Given the X350 was fully serviced (OEM plastic pan..) not that many miles ago, it would be the L320 that would be more suited to a metal pan, and that my need is (probably... hopefully...) a bit further into the future?
I shall wait on YOU!
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Reinz has an impressive history, is now part of Dana & the factory is still in Germany, so no surprise it is well spoken of, too.
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Try counting the number of holes in the gasket, there should be 21.
OEM Ford Automatic Transmission Oil Pan Gasket BL3Z-7A191-C
BL3Z-7A191-C does look to be the right one
OEM Ford Automatic Transmission Oil Pan Gasket BL3Z-7A191-C
BL3Z-7A191-C does look to be the right one
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Metal trans pan issue
I bought a Uro metal transmission pan for my 2004 XJ8 and when I offered it up to the transmission there was a gap of about 1/4" between the pan and transmission case. Turns out the pipe on the new pan was too long as shown in the attached photos. The replacement Uro pan sent was perfect.
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I would like to warn and caution anyone thinking of a metal to not use a metal pan. I have a tamale business and I deal with a lot of metal in making tamales i.e. stainless steel and aluminum.
And when I am cleaning said metal parts with hot water, the first thing you notice is how hot the metal gets. It made me realize that the reason manufacturers went to plastic pans is to reduce the heat produced by the metal pan.
In addition thereto, you would also have to take in consideration condensation i.e. water into consideration that would also be introduced into the transmission by the condensation process of a metal pan.
In other words once the oil heats up it will then heat heat pan which would in turn increase the operating temperature of the transmission and the fluid. This is the same physics and reasoning as to why all gas tanks on cars are now plastic. Heat will kill a transmission and metal pan produces and increase the heat inside of transmission as well as condensation. That is basic physics.
And when I am cleaning said metal parts with hot water, the first thing you notice is how hot the metal gets. It made me realize that the reason manufacturers went to plastic pans is to reduce the heat produced by the metal pan.
In addition thereto, you would also have to take in consideration condensation i.e. water into consideration that would also be introduced into the transmission by the condensation process of a metal pan.
In other words once the oil heats up it will then heat heat pan which would in turn increase the operating temperature of the transmission and the fluid. This is the same physics and reasoning as to why all gas tanks on cars are now plastic. Heat will kill a transmission and metal pan produces and increase the heat inside of transmission as well as condensation. That is basic physics.
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g7162002 - Heat is produced in the transmission due to friction and hydraulics. It is absorbed by the pan through conduction (not produced within it) and then dissipated to the surrounding air. Aluminum works best and steel to a lesser degree. Plastic is more of an insulator (refer to thermal conductivity tables). That's why the oil cooler and radiator are made of finned copper or aluminum - not plastic. Just saying.
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Just to reiterate my previous comments....make sure you measure the critical dimensions on aluminum pan (specifically height of the oil return tube and o-ring dimensions), and I suggest flush it with trans fluid first (before install) to make absolutely sure there is no manufacturing or packaging debris in filter, i.e., metal filings.
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