Buyer beware 2009 XJ Portfolio in Miami
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Buyer beware 2009 XJ Portfolio in Miami
So, I had an agreed deal on an agreed price on this car. SAJWA94CX9TH29851
Dealing with Mercedes Benz of Miami, Gregory Campbell.
Money in hand, picking up the car tomorrow.
I get a phone call from him saying the want a lot more money for the car than the agreed sale price.
Then I also found an interesting picture when searching the VIN number.
STAY AWAY!
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The VIN of the car in your picture is SAJWA94C99TH29551
The VIN of the car that's for sale is SAJWA94C99TH29851
Dealing with Mercedes Benz of Miami, Gregory Campbell.
Money in hand, picking up the car tomorrow.
I get a phone call from him saying the want a lot more money for the car than the agreed sale price.
Then I also found an interesting picture when searching the VIN number.
STAY AWAY!
EDIT BY MOD TEAM
The VIN of the car in your picture is SAJWA94C99TH29551
The VIN of the car that's for sale is SAJWA94C99TH29851
Last edited by Cambo; 10-22-2015 at 04:53 PM.
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Well now it get's a little interesting the deeper one looks.
H29551 is definitely a Portfolio according to Topix.
H29851 shows in Topix but without a detailed build sheet, which is a little strange.
It does appear that H29551 which was written off in Maryland sometime before September 2013, re-appeared in Ohio in May 2015 re-built and noted as "major issue" on the accident history and title check (ebay listing). Mileage 53'600, here's a listing of it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Jaguar-...p2047675.l2557
Then there is H29851, advertised in Florida, Oct 2015, Mileage 31'463. Jaguar XJ Super V8 | eBay and Carfax has no bad news in it CARFAX Vehicle History Report for this 2009 JAGUAR XJ PORTFOLIO: SAJWA94CX9TH29851
Photos of H29551 show it missing the bonnet leaper, and no badges on the boot lid. Makes sense if it was a re-shell or similar.
Photos of H29851 show a pristine vehicle, all original, nothing appears out of the ordinary.
They do not appear to be the same car to me.
H29551 is definitely a Portfolio according to Topix.
H29851 shows in Topix but without a detailed build sheet, which is a little strange.
It does appear that H29551 which was written off in Maryland sometime before September 2013, re-appeared in Ohio in May 2015 re-built and noted as "major issue" on the accident history and title check (ebay listing). Mileage 53'600, here's a listing of it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Jaguar-...p2047675.l2557
Then there is H29851, advertised in Florida, Oct 2015, Mileage 31'463. Jaguar XJ Super V8 | eBay and Carfax has no bad news in it CARFAX Vehicle History Report for this 2009 JAGUAR XJ PORTFOLIO: SAJWA94CX9TH29851
Photos of H29551 show it missing the bonnet leaper, and no badges on the boot lid. Makes sense if it was a re-shell or similar.
Photos of H29851 show a pristine vehicle, all original, nothing appears out of the ordinary.
They do not appear to be the same car to me.
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re-shell, taking the body or "shell" of another car and transferring everything from the smashed car into the good shell. Including swapping VIN's.
Looking at the picture of H29551 in it's damaged state, there is no way that body could be re-built. The roof, floorplan, B pillar, the whole shell is stuffed. So find a cheap XJ8L, swap over the lot.
The risk of course is that the repairs have been done as cheaply as possible, cut & shut, slapped together, which is a scary thought on an aluminium bodied car.
Looking at the picture of H29551 in it's damaged state, there is no way that body could be re-built. The roof, floorplan, B pillar, the whole shell is stuffed. So find a cheap XJ8L, swap over the lot.
The risk of course is that the repairs have been done as cheaply as possible, cut & shut, slapped together, which is a scary thought on an aluminium bodied car.
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I had been looking for an 05 to 07 VDP for a year and took cash on my 600 mile trip to Houston for my SV8 purchase and after sending a $500 deposit, staying overnight, and buying a $180 headlamp, when I sat down at Autoshopper at the end of a long day to sign the final paperwork they hit me with some $500 in dealers costs and fees above the agreed price. I resisted, the closer dickered, and I ended up paying an extra $175.
My bro-in-law worked for an outfit that held tent sales to clear backlogs of used cars from dealers and he said that it was standard practice to add fees after the buyer (sucker) was emotionally involved and ready to sign, and that if the sucker walked away they could waive fees to keep the sale but were "encouraged" to stick it to them for all the extra charges they would put up with. He left the business because he hated to screw folks who could barely afford a crappy used car at the advertised price.
Too bad he wasn't with me in Houston as he might have saved me the extra expense, but so far I have about $7,600 in the car including the trip expenses and replacement parts, and I wasn't prepared to lose the deposit and the trip expenses and start looking all over again. I guess he would say I was emotionally involved and I was, but Momma "loved the color" and my life would have been difficult if I'd had to schlep her back to Arkansas without "her" new car.
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It is common in the used car business to add on dealer charges at the last minute, so at least you had some warning.
I had been looking for an 05 to 07 VDP for a year and took cash on my 600 mile trip to Houston for my SV8 purchase and after sending a $500 deposit, staying overnight, and buying a $180 headlamp, when I sat down at Autoshopper at the end of a long day to sign the final paperwork they hit me with some $500 in dealers costs and fees above the agreed price. I resisted, the closer dickered, and I ended up paying an extra $175.
My bro-in-law worked for an outfit that held tent sales to clear backlogs of used cars from dealers and he said that it was standard practice to add fees after the buyer (sucker) was emotionally involved and ready to sign, and that if the sucker walked away they could waive fees to keep the sale but were "encouraged" to stick it to them for all the extra charges they would put up with. He left the business because he hated to screw folks who could barely afford a crappy used car at the advertised price.
Too bad he wasn't with me in Houston as he might have saved me the extra expense, but so far I have about $7,600 in the car including the trip expenses and replacement parts, and I wasn't prepared to lose the deposit and the trip expenses and start looking all over again. I guess he would say I was emotionally involved and I was, but Momma "loved the color" and my life would have been difficult if I'd had to schlep her back to Arkansas without "her" new car.
I had been looking for an 05 to 07 VDP for a year and took cash on my 600 mile trip to Houston for my SV8 purchase and after sending a $500 deposit, staying overnight, and buying a $180 headlamp, when I sat down at Autoshopper at the end of a long day to sign the final paperwork they hit me with some $500 in dealers costs and fees above the agreed price. I resisted, the closer dickered, and I ended up paying an extra $175.
My bro-in-law worked for an outfit that held tent sales to clear backlogs of used cars from dealers and he said that it was standard practice to add fees after the buyer (sucker) was emotionally involved and ready to sign, and that if the sucker walked away they could waive fees to keep the sale but were "encouraged" to stick it to them for all the extra charges they would put up with. He left the business because he hated to screw folks who could barely afford a crappy used car at the advertised price.
Too bad he wasn't with me in Houston as he might have saved me the extra expense, but so far I have about $7,600 in the car including the trip expenses and replacement parts, and I wasn't prepared to lose the deposit and the trip expenses and start looking all over again. I guess he would say I was emotionally involved and I was, but Momma "loved the color" and my life would have been difficult if I'd had to schlep her back to Arkansas without "her" new car.
They are SCUM, with a very low rating on eBay. I am filing a complaint with the DMV and with Mercedes Benz of North America.
Last edited by Donzi; 10-23-2015 at 12:25 PM.
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NO SIR! That's NOT what happened. They raised the sale price by thousands of dollars AFTER I had a deal in writing! I was fully aware of the dealer fees and other misc. charges.
They are SCUM, with a very low rating on eBay. I am filing a complaint with the DMV and with Mercedes Benz of North America.
They are SCUM, with a very low rating on eBay. I am filing a complaint with the DMV and with Mercedes Benz of North America.
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