Castrol Response Super DOT 4 brake fluid
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Unless you drive right to the absolute limits and beyond, it doesn't really matter. And, if it did, you would definitely know because you would be changing the fluid every week.
"super" has no defined meaning in the specification, DOT, SAE, or Jaguar.
Both the Ford and BMW fluids also far exceed their claimed DOT compliance level. They are also both dirt cheap. The BMW fluid is rebadged ATE. The Ford spec is available from the usual aftermarket brands. It just says "meets FORD specification XXXX, boiling point 550 degrees F.".
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may be it is a BS overkill, who knows..
but for a few $ why not go with the recco,
but for a few $ why not go with the recco,
So, which is it?
"Unless you drive right to the absolute limits and beyond", it doesn't really matter. And, if it did, you would definitely know because you would be changing the fluid every week.
"super" has no defined meaning in the specification, DOT, SAE, or Jaguar.
Both the Ford and BMW fluids also far exceed their claimed DOT compliance level. They are also both dirt cheap. The BMW fluid is rebadged ATE. The Ford spec is available from the usual aftermarket brands. It just says "meets FORD specification XXXX, boiling point 550 degrees F.".
"Unless you drive right to the absolute limits and beyond", it doesn't really matter. And, if it did, you would definitely know because you would be changing the fluid every week.
"super" has no defined meaning in the specification, DOT, SAE, or Jaguar.
Both the Ford and BMW fluids also far exceed their claimed DOT compliance level. They are also both dirt cheap. The BMW fluid is rebadged ATE. The Ford spec is available from the usual aftermarket brands. It just says "meets FORD specification XXXX, boiling point 550 degrees F.".
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I always use the ATE fluids, they have a blue and gold colored version, so use them one after the other (easier to see this way that all fluid has been exchanged)
The specs are also very good, better then Castrol anyway. Here an example:
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/accessoryDetail.jsp?ID=21
The specs are also very good, better then Castrol anyway. Here an example:
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/accessoryDetail.jsp?ID=21
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So even though the manufacturer states use super dot 4 and it is available from many sources at a price of around $10.00 pet litre you would not use it.![Icon Shrug](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_shrug.gif)
This is peanuts compared to many of the repair and maintenance costs on these cars.
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This is peanuts compared to many of the repair and maintenance costs on these cars.
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Brake fluid, like many other safety related items, is federally regulated and must comply to a specification. Current specs applicable to brake fluid are DOT 3, 4, 5 and 5.1. There is no 'super' DOT 4 spec, unless you can point me to one.
My manual also mentions a specific brand and model of tire. Should I stick only to that specific model even though it is outdated and doesn't reflect the full range of choices in the market?
Do you?
My manual also mentions a specific brand and model of tire. Should I stick only to that specific model even though it is outdated and doesn't reflect the full range of choices in the market?
Do you?
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Actually, there are some tires that do not work well with our cars. I know I ran into this problem and the dealer showed me a TSB saying which tires were and were not recommended for the vehicle.
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Please understand that people are simply trying to help here.
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I bought Pentosin Super DOT 4 in a 1litre bottle for $12.99 here:
Pentosin - Super DOT4 Brake Fluid (1 Liter) [ BF-1L ] - UroTuning.com - Parts for VW Audi Porsche BMW
I could not find it locally and my local NAPA dealer did not carry it.
Pentosin - Super DOT4 Brake Fluid (1 Liter) [ BF-1L ] - UroTuning.com - Parts for VW Audi Porsche BMW
I could not find it locally and my local NAPA dealer did not carry it.
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I bought Pentosin Super DOT 4 in a 1litre bottle for $12.99 here:
Pentosin - Super DOT4 Brake Fluid (1 Liter) [ BF-1L ] - UroTuning.com - Parts for VW Audi Porsche BMW
I could not find it locally and my local NAPA dealer did not carry it.
Pentosin - Super DOT4 Brake Fluid (1 Liter) [ BF-1L ] - UroTuning.com - Parts for VW Audi Porsche BMW
I could not find it locally and my local NAPA dealer did not carry it.
I looked at the specs on tghe Pentosin fluid and compared them to other fluids and it looks like the word "Super" on the can means no more than if it said "Hotdangdiddly". The ATE blue fluid has higher specs and it is advertised as DOT 4.
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This is essentially the point I was trying to get across above. From the specs I've seen, ALL the fluids significantly exceed DOT4 requirements. Some manufacturers make a big deal of that, others don't. If the cars actually needed fluid that exceeded DOT4 spec, they would specify the next step up which is 5.1
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I use the Pentosin fluid and buy it off the shelf at BAP/Geon.
I looked at the specs on tghe Pentosin fluid and compared them to other fluids and it looks like the word "Super" on the can means no more than if it said "Hotdangdiddly". The ATE blue fluid has higher specs and it is advertised as DOT 4.
I looked at the specs on tghe Pentosin fluid and compared them to other fluids and it looks like the word "Super" on the can means no more than if it said "Hotdangdiddly". The ATE blue fluid has higher specs and it is advertised as DOT 4.
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just being sarcastic...
"Wotaborintrhed"
as in what a boring thread
FKKNHELL Jahhummer
you better start shopping for Christmas now.
Swear swear swear..Jahummer
and better start shopping for Xmas:
as it takes Jahum 3 weeks to buy some brake fluid...
Sorry!
"Wotaborintrhed"
as in what a boring thread
FKKNHELL Jahhummer
you better start shopping for Christmas now.
Swear swear swear..Jahummer
and better start shopping for Xmas:
as it takes Jahum 3 weeks to buy some brake fluid...
Sorry!
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