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Well, car is in with Prestige Jaguar today, dropped off at 8am this morning, so the dif is finally getting done!!

Just called for an update........seemingly had problems getting the driveshafts out, seized seemingly!

Anyhow, on with it now and the diff to come out and then all to be replaced, so should be collecting tonight.

I have asked if its possible to split the diff so I can take pics to see what sort of condition its in, I'm sure more than a few would like to see this, but unsure whether they will have the time, but fingers crossed.
 
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:29 PM
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Update

Well it looks like someone at the parts dept in Jaguar didn't check against the Vin number and sent out the wrong propshaft, they sent the std version as against the LWB as required for my car

So the new rear diff installed along with drive shafts etc and all ready good to go, but the propshaft is wrong, so will have to wait until the correct part is received tomorrow now!

This is the new upgraded version I've been informed and seemingly there is a tsb out for this.

Anyhow, pics of the car as is at the moment.......

Firstly, here's Dougie ( the owner and Mastertech 's ) toolbox......




Car on the lift....looking a little bare




Old diff removed.....




Old diff details....someone asked ratio's 3.07



New diff installed on the car....



New diff c/w drive shafts installed.....



Prop shafts old v new.....




I did ask if they could open up the old diff to have a look at, see where the issues are, take some pics etc but it is a no go I'm afraid.

New LWB prop shaft should arrive tomorrow in the am and car ready by around lunchtime.

I'm looking forward to picking her up and hoping for a quiet ride home.
 
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Jim,

Lucky we can get parts overnight in the UK!

What was the condition of the rubber Jurid on the prop shaft? It looks a bit worse for wear in the photo.

Graham
 
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:23 PM
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Lucky we can get parts overnight in the UK!

What was the condition of the rubber Jurid on the prop shaft? It looks a bit worse for wear in the photo.

Graham

Yes Graham, agreed on the parts delivery for sure.

The rubber jurid / doughnut wasn't great I was told. I was also informed that the new upgraded version does away with this and is a direct bolt on assy iirc

Just for the record, Prestige Jaguar are moving ( only about 4 units over, still in the same Ind Est ) on Saturday.
Myself, Rab ( Kingfisher ) and Peter ( Peteranne ) as well as my son Jamie are going along to help with the move.
Should be fun
 
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Jim,

Good progress!

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I did ask if they could open up the old diff to have a look at, see where the issues are, take some pics etc but it is a no go I'm afraid.
Does the reason for the "no go" due to restrictions related to exchanging the old diff for the new? Just curious.

Also, in the photo below, the left end of the new propshaft has a bright metal fitting that is different from the Jurid flexible coupling on the old propshaft. Are you saying that the Jurid will be eliminated altogether with the new propshaft?

The rubber jurid / doughnut wasn't great I was told. I was also informed that the new upgraded version does away with this and is a direct bolt on assy iirc
Cheers,

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See comments in bold below......


Originally Posted by Don B
Jim,

Good progress!



Does the reason for the "no go" due to restrictions related to exchanging the old diff for the new? Just curious.

Yes thats part of it Don as far as I'm aware.
The other is the ludicrous time allowed for the removal / replacement, a mere 2.5 hours I'm told.
Looks like it should be more at least 5-6 hours??

Luckily he's making some money on the parts otherwise they really wouldn't be keen to take the job on

Also, in the photo below, the left end of the new propshaft has a bright metal fitting that is different from the Jurid flexible coupling on the old propshaft. Are you saying that the Jurid will be eliminated altogether with the new propshaft?

Yes, I'm told that the new upgraded / superseded version has this fixing as opposed to the jurid flexible coupling.
Thats what the man says!



Cheers,

Don


 
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Jim,

Can you get a close-up of the replacement for the Jurid?

Difficult to tell on the old/new prop shaft comparison photo but it looks like a stainless/rubber sandwich construction.

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My JEPC from Nov 2013 shows three changes of prop shaft for the 2.7 TDi LWB.

Dodged a bullet - Rear differential-xj-tdi-prop-shaft.jpg
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Also be interesting to see how the Part Number on your replacement matches up with these P/N's.

Graham
 
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Originally Posted by GGG
Jim,

Can you get a close-up of the replacement for the Jurid?
Difficult to tell on the old/new prop shaft comparison photo but it looks like a stainless/rubber sandwich construction.
Graham
Unlikely now Graham, it'll be fitted the next time I see it I guess.


Originally Posted by GGG
My JEPC from Nov 2013 shows three changes of prop shaft for the 2.7 TDi LWB.

Attachment 81558
(click on the image to enlarge it)

Also be interesting to see how the Part Number on your replacement matches up with these P/N's.
Graham
I'll do what i can......

Hope to be collecting this afternoon
 
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Well, the car is back home now and all good

She is now as quiet as the proverbial church mouse, well......I may need to get new tyres as the road noise is now bugging me...lol

Thanks Prestige for a job well done and all for no pennies too!

I'll be seeing them on Saturday as I'm helping them with the move and hope to get all the necessary papework then, maybe even a copy of the tsb too.
 
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:27 AM
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Hi all, just received the paperwork through for the diff repair, see attached for part numbers etc for the upgraded version.

Prestige have the tsb ( all 57 pages or so they say ) relating to this, if I can get in to see them to get it, I'll post it to the forum.

Cheers

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Jim,

The invoice shows 2.5 hours labour. Even with a four post lift, I wouldn't like to try doing it in that time.

Graham
 
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Hi Graham, well spotted.

Dougie nearly had kittens about that, the warranty company would only pay for 2.5 hours for the complete job ( thats bearing in mind that they charge £50 per hour as against around £130 at Jaguar )

Its absolutely shocking and I would've thought at least double those hours myself. He consoled himself that he made some up on the parts I believe....
 
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............ Prestige have the tsb ( all 57 pages or so they say ) relating to this, if I can get in to see them to get it, I'll post it to the forum. Jim
Jim,

If it's this TSB JTB00175NAS5 - Rear Differential Replacement, I have it as a PDF.



Graham
 
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