Engine Surging - Driving me Mad
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Engine Surging - Driving me Mad
Hi
I have a problem with my 2003 Jaguar X350 4.2 V8, when the engine is warm (so not warming up) the car surges between 1000rpm and 2200rpm the surging can be a swing of between 100rpm and 300rpm. I did think it might be the torque converter but the car doesn't do it when it is cold???? The issue starts as soon as the car in warm and in close loop mode, checking the throttle position using an ODBII interface I can see at idle the car is showing 2% throttle position and fluctuates slightly between 2 and 2.4%. Could this be a sign of the throttle pot failing and what are other peoples throttle pots % showing at idle???
Please help as I'm getting close to burning the car.
New parts so far:
Spark plugs and 8 new coils.
Knock sensors
Breather pipe replaced with Silicone at the plastic one was split.
Aaron.
I have a problem with my 2003 Jaguar X350 4.2 V8, when the engine is warm (so not warming up) the car surges between 1000rpm and 2200rpm the surging can be a swing of between 100rpm and 300rpm. I did think it might be the torque converter but the car doesn't do it when it is cold???? The issue starts as soon as the car in warm and in close loop mode, checking the throttle position using an ODBII interface I can see at idle the car is showing 2% throttle position and fluctuates slightly between 2 and 2.4%. Could this be a sign of the throttle pot failing and what are other peoples throttle pots % showing at idle???
Please help as I'm getting close to burning the car.
New parts so far:
Spark plugs and 8 new coils.
Knock sensors
Breather pipe replaced with Silicone at the plastic one was split.
Aaron.
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Hi
I have a problem with my 2003 Jaguar X350 4.2 V8, when the engine is warm (so not warming up) the car surges between 1000rpm and 2200rpm the surging can be a swing of between 100rpm and 300rpm. I did think it might be the torque converter but the car doesn't do it when it is cold???? The issue starts as soon as the car in warm and in close loop mode, checking the throttle position using an ODBII interface I can see at idle the car is showing 2% throttle position and fluctuates slightly between 2 and 2.4%. Could this be a sign of the throttle pot failing and what are other peoples throttle pots % showing at idle???
Please help as I'm getting close to burning the car.
New parts so far:
Spark plugs and 8 new coils.
Knock sensors
Breather pipe replaced with Silicone at the plastic one was split.
Aaron.
I have a problem with my 2003 Jaguar X350 4.2 V8, when the engine is warm (so not warming up) the car surges between 1000rpm and 2200rpm the surging can be a swing of between 100rpm and 300rpm. I did think it might be the torque converter but the car doesn't do it when it is cold???? The issue starts as soon as the car in warm and in close loop mode, checking the throttle position using an ODBII interface I can see at idle the car is showing 2% throttle position and fluctuates slightly between 2 and 2.4%. Could this be a sign of the throttle pot failing and what are other peoples throttle pots % showing at idle???
Please help as I'm getting close to burning the car.
New parts so far:
Spark plugs and 8 new coils.
Knock sensors
Breather pipe replaced with Silicone at the plastic one was split.
Aaron.
I'd start with Any codes ? Then check all sensor parameters via obd2 . Including fuel trims ,
Then I'd try a hard reboot , and failing that a transmition adaption reset via ids/ssd. Then finaly a trans software update . That pretty much covers all baces
Hopefully the codes or fuel trims will set you strait .
Last edited by Datsports; 03-22-2017 at 06:30 AM.
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Thanks for the reply will give it another look over. The only other thing I wondered was PCV Breather cap as when I disconnected the breather hose there was as lot of oil in the tube going to the throttle body??? I had sort of ruled out transmission as even if I put the car in the manual part of the J gate the car still does it, as the rev's climb past 2200rpm it seems less. So I could just drive everywhere at 90mph I guess???
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Check codes, and fuel trims. When surging goes away at high rpms, could be vac leak. Also fuel trims are a large part of close loop system. Browse over my last thread "Only Po174 on SV8". I had a lot of surging caused by Bank 2 O2 sensor. Live data showed erratic surges only on bank 2 side. My surging on live data did not change with high RPM which ruled out vac leak. I did have the TB cleaned, ran better, but did not cure surging.
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