Fuel pressure question
#1
Fuel pressure question
Howdy folks.
Just for some history, last week I did all four 02 sensors on my 04 XJ as it's been throwing cat efficiency codes for a while now. The job was quite easy, btw. Now when I went to clear the codes, I also found a P0191 hanging out like it had nothing better to do. I cleared them all but lately, the car has been hesitating slightly, usually under part throttle.
I tested fuel pressure simultaneously with a mechanical gauge and a Bluetooth ODB on my phone and they were pretty close to each other. The ODB was reading higher by 5psi than the one on the rail. Rail was reading around 45, or so.
So what I'm trying to figure out is, pump or sensor? I couldn't get the car to hesitate(Yet!) with the gauge hooked up because cars are spiteful, but I did notice one odd event. I saw a spike on the mechanical gauge where the needle swept to 80 very quickly 3 times. It happened so fast that I never saw whether it was on the phone, as well. I also didn't notice whether there was a stumble or not. If so, it was imperceptible.
I'll do another test run tomorrow and see what that brings. In the meantime, I figured I'd see what the brain trust thought so I don't have to throw parts at her. Out of all of the European cars I have(4 Audis, 2 BMWs, and VW), this and the VW have been very reliable. It's my wife's car so I'd like to keep her happy!
Just for some history, last week I did all four 02 sensors on my 04 XJ as it's been throwing cat efficiency codes for a while now. The job was quite easy, btw. Now when I went to clear the codes, I also found a P0191 hanging out like it had nothing better to do. I cleared them all but lately, the car has been hesitating slightly, usually under part throttle.
I tested fuel pressure simultaneously with a mechanical gauge and a Bluetooth ODB on my phone and they were pretty close to each other. The ODB was reading higher by 5psi than the one on the rail. Rail was reading around 45, or so.
So what I'm trying to figure out is, pump or sensor? I couldn't get the car to hesitate(Yet!) with the gauge hooked up because cars are spiteful, but I did notice one odd event. I saw a spike on the mechanical gauge where the needle swept to 80 very quickly 3 times. It happened so fast that I never saw whether it was on the phone, as well. I also didn't notice whether there was a stumble or not. If so, it was imperceptible.
I'll do another test run tomorrow and see what that brings. In the meantime, I figured I'd see what the brain trust thought so I don't have to throw parts at her. Out of all of the European cars I have(4 Audis, 2 BMWs, and VW), this and the VW have been very reliable. It's my wife's car so I'd like to keep her happy!
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The reason I like WDS/IDS Datalogger is because the readings 'scroll' on a graph like a heart monitor or a 'lie-detector' on TV.
The 'spikes' would show and remain on the screen for a period of time. (or in the playback)
Hope you are watching the next time something happens with a sensor monitor event.
The 'spikes' would show and remain on the screen for a period of time. (or in the playback)
Hope you are watching the next time something happens with a sensor monitor event.
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EuroCollector (09-25-2022)
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The reason I like WDS/IDS Datalogger is because the readings 'scroll' on a graph like a heart monitor or a 'lie-detector' on TV.
The 'spikes' would show and remain on the screen for a period of time. (or in the playback)
Hope you are watching the next time something happens with a sensor monitor event.
The 'spikes' would show and remain on the screen for a period of time. (or in the playback)
Hope you are watching the next time something happens with a sensor monitor event.
I did notice that the rail pressure bled down to maybe 10psi overnight. Not sure if that's normal with this system or not.
For now, I'll try to catch it acting up live so I have an idea of which way to go.
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motorcarman (09-26-2022)
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That makes sense. I'm just hoping that it's more possibly a sensor than a pump. As to the cat codes, I'm fairly certain it was the O2s as that not only did eliminate the codes but has started to considerably settle down the fuel trims.
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I'm not really sure what that is exactly. I'd love to have IDS but I have no clue how to get that up and running. I have the factory diag programs for BMW and Audi/VW and I assumed it would be just as simple for the Jag, but alas.
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