Heated Windshield
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Heated Windshield
How does one tell if the windshield is heated? 2008 Super V8. The manual seems to indicate that it is, but I can't tell by looking at it. Unfortunately I need to replace the windshield after a nasty stone hit that was already too big to fix and its now spread into a large crack. If it is heated, I want to go back with heated of course (assuming I can even find one - two places have already said they can only get non-heated and it's almost $1,000 for that!) Thanks for any input.
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Jaroslav Záruba (11-21-2023)
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If you can't see the wires in the glass then it will not be heated.
My replacement screen is Chinese made and it has been fine.
$1000 is very very expensive and they are probably Chinese ones
that they fit
I claimed on my vehicle insurance for the new screen
My replacement screen is Chinese made and it has been fine.
$1000 is very very expensive and they are probably Chinese ones
that they fit
I claimed on my vehicle insurance for the new screen
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The best way is to look at the defrost controls. All cars will have a button for rear window defrost. If there is only one button for demist, it will look like this:
Normal hot air defrost
In cars with navigation, the defrost button is in portrait rather than landscape as above. If there is a front heated screen, the button is divided in two vertically and the lower portion will have the logo as shown below.
If you have a heated windscreen, you will also have a button like this:
Heated front windscreen
My car does not have the facility for a heated windscreen as it does not have the heated front windscreen button. I did take a photo of the screen one day when the sun was at the right angle, that showed what looks like heating wires.
Heating wires?
My advice is to get the heated screen, if all other factors are equal. I'm not sure if my front screen has ever been replaced, or if it is the original fitment.
Pete M
Normal hot air defrost
In cars with navigation, the defrost button is in portrait rather than landscape as above. If there is a front heated screen, the button is divided in two vertically and the lower portion will have the logo as shown below.
If you have a heated windscreen, you will also have a button like this:
Heated front windscreen
My car does not have the facility for a heated windscreen as it does not have the heated front windscreen button. I did take a photo of the screen one day when the sun was at the right angle, that showed what looks like heating wires.
Heating wires?
My advice is to get the heated screen, if all other factors are equal. I'm not sure if my front screen has ever been replaced, or if it is the original fitment.
Pete M
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1. Wires should be visible inside the windshield.
2. There are two buttons on the audio unit: defrost /air only/+ heating.
Definitely install heated windshield, even a substitute, it's a very good moment to do that, the wiring can be done later, it's not complicated. Replacing the audio unit would be good, but it is not necessary, it can be connected to the defrost button or driver seat heating button /not directly of course, it is supported by FEM/. If audio unit is replaced then new programming and car configuration should be done pointing screen heating.
2. There are two buttons on the audio unit: defrost /air only/+ heating.
Definitely install heated windshield, even a substitute, it's a very good moment to do that, the wiring can be done later, it's not complicated. Replacing the audio unit would be good, but it is not necessary, it can be connected to the defrost button or driver seat heating button /not directly of course, it is supported by FEM/. If audio unit is replaced then new programming and car configuration should be done pointing screen heating.
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1. Wires should be visible inside the windshield.
2. There are two buttons on the audio unit: defrost /air only/+ heating.
Definitely install heated windshield, even a substitute, it's a very good moment to do that, the wiring can be done later, it's not complicated. Replacing the audio unit would be good, but it is not necessary, it can be connected to the defrost button or driver seat heating button /not directly of course, it is supported by FEM/. If audio unit is replaced then new programming and car configuration should be done pointing screen heating.
2. There are two buttons on the audio unit: defrost /air only/+ heating.
Definitely install heated windshield, even a substitute, it's a very good moment to do that, the wiring can be done later, it's not complicated. Replacing the audio unit would be good, but it is not necessary, it can be connected to the defrost button or driver seat heating button /not directly of course, it is supported by FEM/. If audio unit is replaced then new programming and car configuration should be done pointing screen heating.
Some markets do have two buttons as in my post above, but below is a pic of my car and you can see it only has one button, despite having wires in the windscreen. I would really like to think I can swap out the button, connect it up and have a working heated screen. Do you think that's possible?
Pete M
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Hi Pete,
maybe for the Japanese market front and rear heated screens are operated via the same button. I do not see the sense in that, but do you have a possibility to check whether the front screen gets power and works?
I have a reserve unit and can check if it has two buttons and how they are installed on the weekend, unfortunately I am on a business trip right now.
Best regards,
Thomas
maybe for the Japanese market front and rear heated screens are operated via the same button. I do not see the sense in that, but do you have a possibility to check whether the front screen gets power and works?
I have a reserve unit and can check if it has two buttons and how they are installed on the weekend, unfortunately I am on a business trip right now.
Best regards,
Thomas
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Hi PeterX358,
Some markets do have two buttons as in my post above, but below is a pic of my car and you can see it only has one button, despite having wires in the windscreen. I would really like to think I can swap out the button, connect it up and have a working heated screen. Do you think that's possible?
Pete M
Some markets do have two buttons as in my post above, but below is a pic of my car and you can see it only has one button, despite having wires in the windscreen. I would really like to think I can swap out the button, connect it up and have a working heated screen. Do you think that's possible?
Pete M
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I agree for the most part. My Land Rover Discovery ('99 Series 2) has the heated windshield and I have never found it distracting. The Jag does not have the heated windshield after all, but I may still add it assuming I can even find one - so far no luck. I can get the non-heated one and I may have to go that route because I need it replaced sooner rather than later. The crack seem longer every morning.
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Hi Pete,
maybe for the Japanese market front and rear heated screens are operated via the same button. I do not see the sense in that, but do you have a possibility to check whether the front screen gets power and works?
I have a reserve unit and can check if it has two buttons and how they are installed on the weekend, unfortunately I am on a business trip right now.
Best regards,
Thomas
maybe for the Japanese market front and rear heated screens are operated via the same button. I do not see the sense in that, but do you have a possibility to check whether the front screen gets power and works?
I have a reserve unit and can check if it has two buttons and how they are installed on the weekend, unfortunately I am on a business trip right now.
Best regards,
Thomas
I checked my front fuse box today, and I have fuses 7 and 32, that control the heated windscreen (left and right) and heated wiper area. I also checked the output side of the fuses for resistance to ground. I have 1.6 and 1.8 ohms, which would equate to about 75 watts of power each. I don't think the screen is heated in response to the DEF button, as it doesn't clear quickly, but only in response to warm air from the aircon. I wonder if I inserted a switch to ground on the control wire to the fuse box that I could get a working heated screen. Looking forward to seeing how your reserve unit is wired.
Regards
Pete M
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Also, how much should one pay attention to the product number of the AM?
Looking at eBay, it seems the product number has varying suffix while the unit itself looks physically still the same (same set of buttons, all with a CD-tray...)
Last edited by Jaroslav Záruba; 11-21-2023 at 04:48 PM.
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I guess I wasn't very precise, I meant replacing the module with the screen with one that contains an additional button for electric heating, not a CD player below. Programming a new module, not an existing module, using SDD, providing the correct car specification, i.e. presence of electric windshield heating. It takes about 5 minutes. At the same time, you can change the RDS or region settings, e.g. for vehicles with a synthesis step from the USA, you can specify EU, then you can enjoy the full spectrum of stations in Europe. I don't think that module serial numbers are of any fundamental importance. It is important to recognize whether it is with or without video support and choose according to your own configuration. It's easy to see from the rear panel.
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I mentioned the CD as the first thing I was looking at when trying to understand why the product number varies. My apology for the confusion.
Programming a new module, not an existing module, using SDD, providing the correct car specification, i.e. presence of electric windshield heating. It takes about 5 minutes. At the same time, you can change the RDS or region settings, e.g. for vehicles with a synthesis step from the USA, you can specify EU, then you can enjoy the full spectrum of stations in Europe. I don't think that module serial numbers are of any fundamental importance.
My understanding is that's something dealerships posses/does. I assume the cable is cheap, the software is not.
So the important part is to check for the presence of a video input/output, and to make sure the back-end of the new head-unit is the same...?
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Yap, they differ generally by monitor terminals on the back plate. I have both variants left /when I decided to upgrade the system, but gave up/, I would take photos, but they are in the attic, and now it's cold there, so I will take it in the spring ..... As for the mirrors, it's exactly the same, you have to use SDD to tell the car that it has folding mirrors. Before that, you need to replace the mirrors, harnesses and the control panel on the driver's door. This mod is not cheap if you have an X358, but mirrors for the 350 are much cheaper.
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As for the mirrors, it's exactly the same, you have to use SDD to tell the car that it has folding mirrors. Before that, you need to replace the mirrors, harnesses and the control panel on the driver's door. This mod is not cheap if you have an X358, but mirrors for the 350 are much cheaper.
My mirrors do fold, I assumed that was standard on all x350/x358.
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I was wondering, let's say I purchase the heated windshield, where would I plug the wiring into? ...where would one find the sockets?
These two posts from the UK forum shed some light on that:
https://www.jaguarforum.com/threads/.../#post-1069769
and a follow-up:
These two posts from the UK forum shed some light on that:
https://www.jaguarforum.com/threads/.../#post-1069769
Easy enough to check if the wiring is present. Just pop of the trim on the drivers side windscreen piller. There should be two ribbon connectors, one top and one bottom that connect to the screen. At least that's where mine were on my x350 executive.
If Relay 3 is present in the front (under bonnet) fuse box, and if Fuse 32 (40 amp) is also present then the car originally had a heated windscreen.
There should also be connections as Barry describes, but on the passenger side as well. The heated screen elements are in two sections, left (F32) and right.
There should also be connections as Barry describes, but on the passenger side as well. The heated screen elements are in two sections, left (F32) and right.