Hello! Looking for some guidance with 2009 XJ 2.7 purchase
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Hello! Looking for some guidance with 2009 XJ 2.7 purchase
Hello All!
New to the forum and joined because I am looking to purchase a 2009 Jaguar XJ 2.7 with 104k Kilometers on the odometer. Any advice or direction to make a checklist would be really helpful.
I have conducted some basic research and see that the car has a few issues (seems mostly 2003-2006 reported) that I should be aware of. Hoping to make a checklist for services performed, recalls, warranty work and issues that should have been adressed by the previous owner. Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated and helpful.
Thanks in advance for all of your help, looking forward to making some some new friends here!
Greg
New to the forum and joined because I am looking to purchase a 2009 Jaguar XJ 2.7 with 104k Kilometers on the odometer. Any advice or direction to make a checklist would be really helpful.
I have conducted some basic research and see that the car has a few issues (seems mostly 2003-2006 reported) that I should be aware of. Hoping to make a checklist for services performed, recalls, warranty work and issues that should have been adressed by the previous owner. Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated and helpful.
Thanks in advance for all of your help, looking forward to making some some new friends here!
Greg
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You may do better to ask in the X350 section of the UK/EU Jaguar forum jaguarforum.com (no 's'). This forum (jaguarforums.com) is mainly frequented by North American Jag owners and the Tdvi was never marketed there.
On the specifically diesel aspect, it depends how you intend to use it. If you intend to do mainly commuting through suburbs, town or city roads (ie frequent traffic queues, roundabouts, lights etc) then the diesel is very well avoided unless you have, say, at least fifteen or twenty miles (that's 15-to-20 in one go, not 2xeight/ten mile runs) of open road free running in each day's journey; by which I mean generally uninterrupted running at or above 40mph. Urban, suburban and city running doesn't sit well with the DPF and its periodic regeneration cycles; you'll suffer from it telling you to do DPF clearance runs, and you may well find it telling you to change the engine oil early (because fuel dilution of the engine oil, a side effect of DPF regeneration burns, has reached its limit).
On the other hand if you're going to be doing mainly motorway and main road driving outside town then there should be no problem with the DPF.
On the specifically diesel aspect, it depends how you intend to use it. If you intend to do mainly commuting through suburbs, town or city roads (ie frequent traffic queues, roundabouts, lights etc) then the diesel is very well avoided unless you have, say, at least fifteen or twenty miles (that's 15-to-20 in one go, not 2xeight/ten mile runs) of open road free running in each day's journey; by which I mean generally uninterrupted running at or above 40mph. Urban, suburban and city running doesn't sit well with the DPF and its periodic regeneration cycles; you'll suffer from it telling you to do DPF clearance runs, and you may well find it telling you to change the engine oil early (because fuel dilution of the engine oil, a side effect of DPF regeneration burns, has reached its limit).
On the other hand if you're going to be doing mainly motorway and main road driving outside town then there should be no problem with the DPF.
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G-MIK (07-23-2018)
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Presumably an X358 (my X358 is 2008, 80,000 km-thats Km)
-I perceive the car as quite wide, or maybe I'm just paranoid about door dings etc.
-This forum is full of air suspension issues, though I don't know how you'd check that in a "tyre-kicking" session. It is normal for the air suspension to go down overnight or something anyway, and the manual even says so. Incidentally Mercedes S-Class (at least) has the same issues.
-This car is full of interlocking electronics, and I would say it is impossible to check every function.
-If you are referring to corrosion issues, they don't strike me as anything unusual at least in the later ones, but like ANY car they are better off garaged?
-If you lock your keys in the boot, at least do it at the end of a wharf :-)
Call me old, but I bought from a reputable dealer, and also purchased the most comprehensive mechanical warranty I could get.
The good side is, this forum lists every issue everyone ever had, but unless you are particularly unlucky only "10%" will apply to you!
I have owned my X358 for a few months with no issues at all. In the meantime the starter motor packed up on my Honda, a tow job plus $550...so there you go.
-I perceive the car as quite wide, or maybe I'm just paranoid about door dings etc.
-This forum is full of air suspension issues, though I don't know how you'd check that in a "tyre-kicking" session. It is normal for the air suspension to go down overnight or something anyway, and the manual even says so. Incidentally Mercedes S-Class (at least) has the same issues.
-This car is full of interlocking electronics, and I would say it is impossible to check every function.
-If you are referring to corrosion issues, they don't strike me as anything unusual at least in the later ones, but like ANY car they are better off garaged?
-If you lock your keys in the boot, at least do it at the end of a wharf :-)
Call me old, but I bought from a reputable dealer, and also purchased the most comprehensive mechanical warranty I could get.
The good side is, this forum lists every issue everyone ever had, but unless you are particularly unlucky only "10%" will apply to you!
I have owned my X358 for a few months with no issues at all. In the meantime the starter motor packed up on my Honda, a tow job plus $550...so there you go.
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G-MIK (07-23-2018)
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A local independent told me of three very common issues with the diesel cars are (1) DPF blockage,(2) EGR valve blockage, and (3) cracking of exhaust pipe between manifold and catalyst. For issues 1 & 2 they usually just replaced the unit, as if they cleaned them it might not work for very long, but their customers expected more certainty, and a new unit has a warranty. For issue 3, Jaguar supply a repair section that keeps the flexible section. Aftermarket sections are also available for a lot less money, but don't have the flexible section, and as a result the owner may experience more vibration. Of course this extra vibration may be acceptable if money is a key factor.
Rarer faults have been diesel "runaway" when the engine runs on its own oil due to dilution by fuel, and leakage past the turbo seals, plus crank shaft breakages due to bearings rotating in their housings. Not seen very often on this forum at all, but it can happen.
The diesel cars have a specific engine mount controlled electrically so as to minimise vibration.These can fail and need replacement
Apart from these diesel-specific faults the usual issues with the X350/X358 cars apply.
Rarer faults have been diesel "runaway" when the engine runs on its own oil due to dilution by fuel, and leakage past the turbo seals, plus crank shaft breakages due to bearings rotating in their housings. Not seen very often on this forum at all, but it can happen.
The diesel cars have a specific engine mount controlled electrically so as to minimise vibration.These can fail and need replacement
Apart from these diesel-specific faults the usual issues with the X350/X358 cars apply.
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G-MIK (07-23-2018)
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You may do better to ask in the X350 section of the UK/EU Jaguar forum jaguarforum.com (no 's'). This forum (jaguarforums.com) is mainly frequented by North American Jag owners and the Tdvi was never marketed there.
On the specifically diesel aspect, it depends how you intend to use it. If you intend to do mainly commuting through suburbs, town or city roads (ie frequent traffic queues, roundabouts, lights etc) then the diesel is very well avoided unless you have, say, at least fifteen or twenty miles (that's 15-to-20 in one go, not 2xeight/ten mile runs) of open road free running in each day's journey; by which I mean generally uninterrupted running at or above 40mph. Urban, suburban and city running doesn't sit well with the DPF and its periodic regeneration cycles; you'll suffer from it telling you to do DPF clearance runs, and you may well find it telling you to change the engine oil early (because fuel dilution of the engine oil, a side effect of DPF regeneration burns, has reached its limit).
On the other hand if you're going to be doing mainly motorway and main road driving outside town then there should be no problem with the DPF.
On the specifically diesel aspect, it depends how you intend to use it. If you intend to do mainly commuting through suburbs, town or city roads (ie frequent traffic queues, roundabouts, lights etc) then the diesel is very well avoided unless you have, say, at least fifteen or twenty miles (that's 15-to-20 in one go, not 2xeight/ten mile runs) of open road free running in each day's journey; by which I mean generally uninterrupted running at or above 40mph. Urban, suburban and city running doesn't sit well with the DPF and its periodic regeneration cycles; you'll suffer from it telling you to do DPF clearance runs, and you may well find it telling you to change the engine oil early (because fuel dilution of the engine oil, a side effect of DPF regeneration burns, has reached its limit).
On the other hand if you're going to be doing mainly motorway and main road driving outside town then there should be no problem with the DPF.
I plan on using the car to drive in and out of Barcelona for about an hour each way, 120kph speed limit, 1-2 times a week. Also will be driving a lot of windy mountain roads keeping the car in sport mode so in higher RPMs.
Is the occasional jaunt to the grocery store for just a few kilometers ok?
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