HELP! 2004 supercharged XJR 4.2L
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I hope someone can help me. I have a 2004 XJR w/supercharged 4.2L and it won't crank or start. Yesterday it was running fine, then I took it home and washed it. This morning it would not crank or start. The interior lights blink and it makes a buzzing sound each time I turn the key. I can release the parking brake and can hear it engage. I located the OBD connector and retrieved 3 codes (P1111, P1338, P1000). Additionally there is a message that says " No DSC available, and No Cruise available". I cleared the codes and still nothing. I disconnected the battery for about an hour,. reconnected and still nothing. Other things I noticed were the radio would stop playing if I turned the high beam lights on at the same time, and the J shifter can be shifted out of park even though the engine is not running. (Is that normal?). I took the battery out and it is now charging, in case that's the issue.
Is it possible that the ABS sensors got damaged during the wash? ( I did spray under the car). Please help....
Is it possible that the ABS sensors got damaged during the wash? ( I did spray under the car). Please help....
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joeleerj (09-06-2016)
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The only likely thing that changed with your car from when it was working to now non working is that something got wet that should not have.
My guess is that water got into an electrical connector somewhere and is causing the issue.
Do you have the under body shields in place on your car?
If you sprayed under the car and water splashed in force up into the engine compartment is where I am going here.
My guess is that water got into an electrical connector somewhere and is causing the issue.
Do you have the under body shields in place on your car?
If you sprayed under the car and water splashed in force up into the engine compartment is where I am going here.
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joeleerj (09-06-2016)
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May still have the $10 rebate as well. 9 year warranty, 40 month free replacement and free jump. $109. Best deal on the correct calcium type battery there is.
Also, you need to check the two bolts on the side of the transmission where the shift cable is attached. It is a known issue that they can back out causing a no-start condition.
Last edited by Box; 09-04-2016 at 02:27 PM.
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I cannot recommend strongly enough to replace the battery with the one I posted above. There are more issues due to battery failures due to age or incorrect replacement than just about any other issue with the XJ8. I also highly recommend that you do not use AGM in your vehicle, the ECM charge rates are too high for allowed charging voltage for AGM (max 14.4) as Jaguar uses a 14.6~14.8 float voltage. Jaguar specifies Silver-Calcium batteries, and standard antimony batteries are not the correct type. Since Johnson Controls (who makes the overwhelming number of auto batteries, including Interstate which was at the time recommended by Jaguar) has stopped making any calcium batteries a few years ago, Exide is really the only one making a calcium battery designed for this application.
The correct CTEK charger for calcium batteries is;
https://www.amazon.com/CTEK-56-864-A...&keywords=Ctek
The correct CTEK charger for calcium batteries is;
https://www.amazon.com/CTEK-56-864-A...&keywords=Ctek
Last edited by Box; 09-04-2016 at 03:42 PM.
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Got a new battery from Home Depot on Sunday (problem solved). Thanks guys. I'm now waiting on the CTEK battery minder from Amazon. Now that the low battery problem is solved, I would like to know if anyone has ever pressed the upper ball joint out and if so what ball joint (manufacturer, part # etc,,) did you replace it with. Thanks in advance..
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Got a new battery from Home Depot on Sunday (problem solved). Thanks guys. I'm now waiting on the CTEK battery minder from Amazon. Now that the low battery problem is solved, I would like to know if anyone has ever pressed the upper ball joint out and if so what ball joint (manufacturer, part # etc,,) did you replace it with. Thanks in advance..![Icon Bowrofl](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_bowrofl.gif)
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joeleerj (09-06-2016)
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As I understand it, only difference is price. Lemforder is the one who originally made the arms for Jaguar, and the Ford Thunderbird/Lincoln LS and Jaguar's S-Type also used the same arm, under a different part number. I cannot attest to the composition of the bushing, but reports are that they are the same. I would do a little research through the threads first, as I have not had them in front of me.
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Hi joeleerj,
Search eBay for "Jaguar S Type Control Arm" for some very low prices on the front upper control arms/ball joints. Searching "Lincoln LS Control Arm" will produce many of the same results. My assumption is that these low-cost control arms are manufactured in Asia. I don't know if we have enough data to know if they will last as long as the European-made OE Lemförder units.
You can also search Rock Auto for the control arms for 2004 Jaguar XJ8, S-Type and Lincoln LS to compare options and prices. They carry the OE Lemförder part numbers 3063101 and 3063102, as well as several less expensive options.
Cheers,
Don
Search eBay for "Jaguar S Type Control Arm" for some very low prices on the front upper control arms/ball joints. Searching "Lincoln LS Control Arm" will produce many of the same results. My assumption is that these low-cost control arms are manufactured in Asia. I don't know if we have enough data to know if they will last as long as the European-made OE Lemförder units.
You can also search Rock Auto for the control arms for 2004 Jaguar XJ8, S-Type and Lincoln LS to compare options and prices. They carry the OE Lemförder part numbers 3063101 and 3063102, as well as several less expensive options.
Cheers,
Don
Last edited by Don B; 09-06-2016 at 10:39 PM.
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I cannot recommend strongly enough to replace the battery with the one I posted above. There are more issues due to battery failures due to age or incorrect replacement than just about any other issue with the XJ8. I also highly recommend that you do not use AGM in your vehicle, the ECM charge rates are too high for allowed charging voltage for AGM (max 14.4) as Jaguar uses a 14.6~14.8 float voltage. Jaguar specifies Silver-Calcium batteries, and standard antimony batteries are not the correct type. Since Johnson Controls (who makes the overwhelming number of auto batteries, including Interstate which was at the time recommended by Jaguar) has stopped making any calcium batteries a few years ago, Exide is really the only one making a calcium battery designed for this application.
The correct CTEK charger for calcium batteries is;
https://www.amazon.com/CTEK-56-864-A...&keywords=Ctek
The correct CTEK charger for calcium batteries is;
https://www.amazon.com/CTEK-56-864-A...&keywords=Ctek
The charging voltage of battery charger is determined by the power supply (i.e. the charger), not the receiving circuit.
The modern Ctek chargers are running a charging cycle with different voltages and currents and they are claimed to be compatible with AGM batteries.
If 14.4V is the maximum for AGMs, then the cycle probably does not impose voltages higher than that.
Would you mean that the Jaguar electrics/electronics require a higher voltage to operate satisfactorily, so that the voltage delivered by the alternator during engine operation (float voltage) would be above the threshold tolerated by an AGM battery?
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joeleerj (09-08-2016)
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Can you please elaborate on this?
The charging voltage of battery charger is determined by the power supply (i.e. the charger), not the receiving circuit.
The modern Ctek chargers are running a charging cycle with different voltages and currents and they are claimed to be compatible with AGM batteries.
If 14.4V is the maximum for AGMs, then the cycle probably does not impose voltages higher than that.
Would you mean that the Jaguar electrics/electronics require a higher voltage to operate satisfactorily, so that the voltage delivered by the alternator during engine operation (float voltage) would be above the threshold tolerated by an AGM battery?
The charging voltage of battery charger is determined by the power supply (i.e. the charger), not the receiving circuit.
The modern Ctek chargers are running a charging cycle with different voltages and currents and they are claimed to be compatible with AGM batteries.
If 14.4V is the maximum for AGMs, then the cycle probably does not impose voltages higher than that.
Would you mean that the Jaguar electrics/electronics require a higher voltage to operate satisfactorily, so that the voltage delivered by the alternator during engine operation (float voltage) would be above the threshold tolerated by an AGM battery?
Last edited by Box; 09-07-2016 at 02:45 PM.