Lights come on ignoring the position of the light switch
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Lights come on ignoring the position of the light switch
2004 XJ8
when we start the car the dipped beam and all sidelights come on. It does not matter what position the lighting stalk is set to, off, side only, on, auto, or the delay options, the lights come on and stay on.
I have swapped the column stalk/switch with a known good/used one and cleaned contacts but that had no effect.
I guess relays are next?
Car is Californian, so not expecting issues with ground posts or corrosion.
Any other suggestions?
Luckily they do go off when the key is removed.
when we start the car the dipped beam and all sidelights come on. It does not matter what position the lighting stalk is set to, off, side only, on, auto, or the delay options, the lights come on and stay on.
I have swapped the column stalk/switch with a known good/used one and cleaned contacts but that had no effect.
I guess relays are next?
Car is Californian, so not expecting issues with ground posts or corrosion.
Any other suggestions?
Luckily they do go off when the key is removed.
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Oh, is there a Daytime Running Lights option in the dealer list, that the SSD can switch off and on?
Only had the car two weeks, but do not think it was doing this during test drives/inspection.
Other new item is the reverse warning seems to be failing too.
I think I will dig out the SSD tomorrow, read all the codes, reset them and see what comes back.
Only had the car two weeks, but do not think it was doing this during test drives/inspection.
Other new item is the reverse warning seems to be failing too.
I think I will dig out the SSD tomorrow, read all the codes, reset them and see what comes back.
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The reverse warning failure is not uncommon. The connections at each sensor, inside the rear bumper, can get a bit corroded. Cleaning the contacts off, or just unplugging and replugging them, can cure the problem. Or just a new sensor. Only difficulty is getting the rear bumper cover off and then back on. Doing that has been discussed in this forum several times.
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Just so, ChrisMills,
The test for Daytime Running Lights in operation is to check whether the headlights are only on in Drive and Reverse.
They should go off in Park and Neutral.
I have configured my DRLs to on, with a black car you need all the visibility to others you can get.
I have also just fitted some LED fog lights that have a separate 'angel eye' ring that is connected to the park / side light circuit.
Pete
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Do not have the big screen, but connected up the Mangoose this morning and sure enough Daytime Running Lights (DRL) option was enabled.
Also note the car has wiring on the windscreen, like it would heat the wiper blades in winter, maybe it was Canadian after all?
All sorted now. Took note of all codes and then told the system to wipe them. Will check again in a few days to see which come back.
Lights were indeed off when in park, but on in reverse and neutral and drive, slightly different from how Pete M described above.
SDD said we had the Canadian option selected, not Scandinavian DRL.
Also note the car has wiring on the windscreen, like it would heat the wiper blades in winter, maybe it was Canadian after all?
All sorted now. Took note of all codes and then told the system to wipe them. Will check again in a few days to see which come back.
Lights were indeed off when in park, but on in reverse and neutral and drive, slightly different from how Pete M described above.
SDD said we had the Canadian option selected, not Scandinavian DRL.
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That's interesting, my car is a Japan car and so has a market designator (VIN digit 4) of its own. There is ROW (Rest of World), Japan, USA, Canada, and Mexico market designators, but I think that certain markets such as Scandinavia are 'cold', though I haven't found the official list yet.
There are geographical groupings, so that
Rough Road Markets are Chile, Dominican Republic, Dubai, Egypt, Estonia, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait,
Lebanon, Malaysia, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, Oman, Panama, Philippines, Russia, Saudi, Arabia, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Syria, Thailand
European Markets are: UK, Ireland, Malta, Cyprus, Germany, Poland, Austria, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden,
Denmark, Finland, Norway, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Russia, Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia, Slovakia, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania,
Serbia, Turkey, Israel
Hot Markets are: Taiwan, Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Philippines, Panama, Malaysia, Mexico, Egypt, Dominican Republic, Lebanon, Kuwait, Jordan,
Hong Kong, Bahrain, Dubai, Turkey, Argentina, Oman, Abu Dhabi, Brazil, Brunei, Chile, Cyprus, Greece, Guatemala, Israel, Korea, Malta, Morocco, Qatar,
Syria, Tenerife, Uruguay, Vietnam
Interestingly, some countries appear in both the rough road and hot categories. There must be further options for the electrically heated windscreen and the wiper blade heating pads on the windscreen. Some car makers have a 'cold country option list' but I haven't found that for the X350/8.
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That's interesting. Whad do the heated wiper park areas look like? I assume you mean electrically heated, not just with warm air from the aircon.
I took a photo a while back that showed under a certain light, wavy lines in the glass. Does this mean I have a quickclear windshield? How to I activate it? I only have the large button for defrost which operates the rear screen heater, so I suppose that means I can't turn on the front electric demister.
Wavy lines in the glass
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2004 XJ8
when we start the car the dipped beam and all sidelights come on. It does not matter what position the lighting stalk is set to, off, side only, on, auto, or the delay options, the lights come on and stay on.
I have swapped the column stalk/switch with a known good/used one and cleaned contacts but that had no effect.
I guess relays are next?
Car is Californian, so not expecting issues with ground posts or corrosion.
Any other suggestions?
Luckily they do go off when the key is removed.
when we start the car the dipped beam and all sidelights come on. It does not matter what position the lighting stalk is set to, off, side only, on, auto, or the delay options, the lights come on and stay on.
I have swapped the column stalk/switch with a known good/used one and cleaned contacts but that had no effect.
I guess relays are next?
Car is Californian, so not expecting issues with ground posts or corrosion.
Any other suggestions?
Luckily they do go off when the key is removed.
There're are three of them, two on the right, one on the left comprising aluminum studs and even if they look ok they are often the cause of random electrical problems on all sorts of different systems due to corrosion.
Here is a link on another website which details how to deal with the problem;
https://www.jaguarforum.com/showthre...=86334&page=26
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This is a must do job anyway, cause if the earth points are not causing problems yet, they eventually will. Don't be fooled if they look OK.
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