Looks like a crack in the radiator plastic header
#1
Looks like a crack in the radiator plastic header
So, I've got a coolant leak; I replaced all hoses a year or so ago. There appears to be coolant slowing dripping at the bottom (not too warm and idling). It may be near the radiator return hose (but not the hose). Anyway, I need to re-check it when it is hot, but assuming it is the radiator, has anyone replaced an X350 radiator? Any suggestions on where to get one?
Assistance/suggestions appreciated. It seems to be getting worse fast. I had the same problem with a Ford Expedition (plastic ends cracked) and had to replace it. I'm hoping the x350 will be as easy as the Expedition.
Thanks,
Gordon
Assistance/suggestions appreciated. It seems to be getting worse fast. I had the same problem with a Ford Expedition (plastic ends cracked) and had to replace it. I'm hoping the x350 will be as easy as the Expedition.
Thanks,
Gordon
#2
If the issue is with the coolant reservoir overflow line just have it replaced.
If the issue is elsewhere you can repair the plastic using plastic welding on the crack
Clean up the area (remove and dirt and grease)
Fill the crack with superglue
Apply baking soda over the superglue
Check for leaks and repeat if needed
The baking soda causes the superglue to go instantly hard but also give off a lot of heat for a very short time fusing the plastics. The end result is hard enough to sand
I have repaired plastic radiator side tanks this way before but also repaired a smashed mirror housing the same way. After sanding you would not know it was ever broken
Cheers
34by151
If the issue is elsewhere you can repair the plastic using plastic welding on the crack
Clean up the area (remove and dirt and grease)
Fill the crack with superglue
Apply baking soda over the superglue
Check for leaks and repeat if needed
The baking soda causes the superglue to go instantly hard but also give off a lot of heat for a very short time fusing the plastics. The end result is hard enough to sand
I have repaired plastic radiator side tanks this way before but also repaired a smashed mirror housing the same way. After sanding you would not know it was ever broken
Cheers
34by151
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#4
This is the bottom of the right side of the radiator, viewed from just behind and to the right of it. I caught a drip of coolant. Nothing dripping from the outside. Nothing wrong with the return hose (directly above this at the top.
I've tried epoxying a cracked / leaking radiator on a Ford Expedition (didn't try the super glue/baking soda method) and never could seal it completely, so replaced that radiator (not too hard). On the X350 I replaced all hoses (including the nasty one under the intake manifold), as well as the thermostat, thermostat manifold, water pump, etc. a year or so ago and I see no evidence of any of that stuff leaking at this point. The only thing that hasn't been changed in the cooling system is the radiator. Wouldn't have expected it to go out at 102k
#5
I had the seal bust on the side plastic tanks on the radiator.
I installed a new radiator I got at a decent price.
See link:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...estion-104471/
I installed a new radiator I got at a decent price.
See link:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...estion-104471/
#6
I see that the overflow resevoir seems to be a failure point based on threads, but I didn't feel any moisture on the bottom where I could reach. What usually fails on them? Do they crack somewhere, or does a hose nipple break? If it is a crack, I'll look more closely to see if I can find something and confirm it is leaking down onto the side of the radiator. If not, I suspect it is the radiator...
#7
On the X350 I replaced all hoses (including the nasty one under the intake manifold), as well as the thermostat, thermostat manifold, water pump, etc. a year or so ago and I see no evidence of any of that stuff leaking at this point. The only thing that hasn't been changed in the cooling system is the radiator. Wouldn't have expected it to go out at 102k
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#8
A seal relies on bonding to the outside but the crack still exists and expands eventually pushing off the filler material
Superglue/Baking Soda is is fusing the plastic removing the crack all together.
In other words the plastic itself is the bond the glue is used as the heat source
I not sure from you pic if the leak is in the plastic or running down the side of it but you need to get the radiator out to fix it. In either case the radiator needs to be welded up (Tig if its the alloy, Plastic weld for the plastic)
If you don't repair your only other option is replace
Cheers
34by151
#9
I'm going to pull the hose, clean the area really well, and try the super glue/baking soda method (since I don't want to pull the radiator out--if I have to pull it, I'd rather just put in a new one).
So, do you "sprinkle" the baking soda on the super glue, or somehow dump it on? In my case (since I'm not going to pull it but will do it on the car), the crack will be vertical, not horizontal, so I'll be sprinkling the baking soda or really just dumping it down hoping it gets on the super glue. Do I need a lot? And since some of the super glue will "run", when the baking soda hits it, will it cause any damage to areas without cracks?
Thanks,
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It will be slightly easier without the intercooler. All in all not a too hard job. Btw, mine went out at the same mileage too.
#14
I'm going to start a new thread called, "HELP!! I can't get my radiator out". When I look at your picture below, it appears that the "pipes/tubes that go to your AC condenser have much more clearance than mine (maybe because of your intercooler). The clearance in the oval between your radiator and the AC pipe is big enough that I can see how you can get the lower hose bib through that clearance.
I'll post pictures of mine in the other thread, but there is no physical way there's enough clearance to pull the radiator up through the U shaped AC tubes to pull it out. 10pm and I'm stuck. There's got to be a trick, but I sure don't see it..... I hate working on cars to fix them; I like working on them to improve them......Gonna have to borrow my daughter's Rav4 to go to work tomorrow....
Gordon
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